Chaos Bed Vestiges is a Pyromancy in Dark Souls 3. To cast a Pyromancy you must use a Flame or Special Weapons that can cast Pyromancies.

Chaos Bed Vestiges

Spell Type


Focus ConsumptionFocus Cost 35
Attunement SlotsSlots Used 2
Requirements 20 Intelligence/ 10 Faith
Type Ranged Attack



Traces of the tumultuous seedbed that birthed the beings known as Demons.

Hurls chaos flame that scorches vicinity.

Demons born from fire bore its smoldering essence and perished soon after. Man shares this rapport with the flames to this day.


Acquired From




  • This Pyromancy previously went under the name "Forbidden Sun" in Dark Souls II.
  • Has a better arc (more straight) but shorter range than the orb Pyromancies. 
  • Has an AOE that damages enemies it flies by. However, this damage is fairly weak (210 vs 848 main damage) and ceases once it strikes something. Despite the look, the main projectile itself has a fairly small hitbox.
  • Damage is decent for single target (848 vs 694 via chaos orb without the lava).
  • Quite effective in PvP, for catching fleeing players, punishing estus heals and hitting multiple players at once.
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    • Anonymous

      21 Feb 2018 02:59  

      Seems to cast faster than GCFO, but does about 150 less damage at 40/40, closer to 300 less if you consider the lava lash damage source.

      I'd say it's AOE potential isn't a massive improvement over GCFO either. Pretty situational imo. Plus it doesn't look or feel as cool as GCFO.

      • Anonymous

        21 Jan 2018 15:48  

        I don't get the item text. Mainly "Demons born from fire bore its smoldering essence and perished soon after. Man shares this rapport with the flames to this day." I just can't make any sense of this.

        • Anonymous

          02 Sep 2017 16:18  

          I like the name 'Forbbiden Sun better.' 'Chaos Bed Vestiges' sounds like something the Witch of Izalith wore a a necklace.

          • Anonymous

            28 Feb 2017 05:46  

            torn between this and great chaos fire orb
            I can't seem to make gcfo hit when I free aim so I think I'm just gonna use a carthus curved sword

            • Anonymous

              16 Feb 2017 20:30  

              When I picked up this spell it is by far my favorite. It's better then chaos fire orb. Comes out quick melts oh man I had such a problem with the Lotodielies I spelled it wrong. But not any *****ing more 2 hits n bye bye this is a must have for an experienced Pryo build or some one looking to up there game plus it jus *****s bosses up

              • Anonymous

                27 Dec 2016 19:39  

                Although this spell is fairly predictable, how I play this spell (which works really well for me) is to punish bad spacing and to punish great/ultra weapons and Oni&Ubi and general charge attack weapon arts. It absolutely wrecks for me. I like running at opponents to bait a swing and then missile this thing at the swing happy fools. Although its labeled as being to easy to dodge, you can make or find countless opportunities to land this where they have no options but to take a 600+ hit.

                • Anonymous

                  05 Dec 2016 01:39  

                  After over 130+ hours of pyromancy play, this is by far the best pyro spell. It comes out so fast and does so much damage, it's hard to not break your game for the first few NG+'s. Word of warning though, if your a pyromancer and your still using chaos fire orb for pvp, your doing it wrong

                  • Anonymous

                    02 Nov 2016 16:59  

                    Could it be that this pyromancy is totally overpowered for PVE? I've used it against many Kinghts and Mini Bosses as well as against Aldrich, Dragonslayer Armor, Nameless King (excl. the King of the Storm), Friede (first two phases) and Champion's Gravetender and his cute wolfi. And with this, all of them were pretty easy to beat. Had 24 Int and 20 FTH in the end and not sure for which ones I was using the Witch's and the Great Swamp Ring, but for sure I haven't used both of them in all fights. Anyway, just against Friede in the third phase it wasn't that useful as she always closed the gap very quickly and kicked my ass with her endless combo. So I ended up using shield and sword against her.

                    • Anonymous

                      Fake forbidden sun =)09 Aug 2016 02:01  

                      Let's see the real forbidden sun show up in a dlc. Needs a fast cast, LONG RANGE and high damage.

                      • Anonymous

                        One on one pvp30 Jun 2016 21:21  

                        This spell is garbage.. Easiest spell to roll through, small ass hitbox, with 40 40 int and faith and witch's ring I hit for 600 damage maxHuge fp cost especially if you keep missing...Honestly I prefer this over the orbs because it hits slightly more often than those trash spells

                        • Anonymous

                          Cast Speed29 Jun 2016 20:42  

                          Did the cast speed increase? Or is it just my imagination? For some reason I thought it had the same cast speed as GCFO, but now it seems significantly faster.

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