Londor Pale Shade

londor pale shade
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Londor Pale Shade is a hostile invading NPC in Dark Souls 3, that can also be friendly.

Londor Pale Shade Information

"A hostile invader or ally to your cause, wielding the darkness of the Abyss for or against you"

 

  • Killable
  • Becomes an ally if your relationship with Yuria of Londor is good.
    • Yuria can only be spawned after using Yoel of Londor's "Draw Out True Strength" mechanic 5 times.
    • Gives the Duel Bow gesture after being summoned as a white phantom. Example Video of summoning him for the gesture.
    • Note: if you use the gesture Darkmoon Loyalty, you will receive Duel Bow right afterwards.
  • Becomes an invader if your relationship with Yuria of Londor is disrupted.
    • Your relationship is disrupted by aggroing or killing Yuria, curing the dark sigil, killing Yoel of Londor (before he gives 5 level ups), or by killing Anri of Astora.
    • Both invasions are needed to get the armor set.
  • List of items that refer to this NPC: Manikin Claws, Morion Blade, Pale Shade Set. (references londor pale shades in general)
  • You can recieve his equipment and gesture if you aggro Yuria by hitting her 3 times, run away, kill this invader twice, pay for absolution at Velka's statue, and summon him for Pontiff. Yuria will be friendly afterwards and no quest will be disrupted. Note however, that each invasion must be triggered before defeating the area boss (Abyss Watchers and the Pontiff, respectively) or the Pale Shade will not invade otherwise.
  • If you assisted Sirris in killing Creighton the Wanderer, then you must be invaded by Creighton outside the Church of Yorshka bonfire before the Dark Spirit of Londor will invade you.
  • Does not appear possible after defeating Pontiff Sulyvahn.
  • You must be embered for all dark spirit encounters.
  • His armor is next to Yuria of Londor after he is killed twice.

 

Location

Summon

  • Can be summoned as an ally for Abyss Watchers, the summon sign is in the corner next to the Farron Keep Perimeter bonfire.
  • Can be summoned as an ally for Pontiff Sulyvahn, the summon sign is in front of a statue right outside the boss fog.
  • Can be summoned as an ally for Soul of Cinder, the summon sign is located halfway between the bonfire and the boss fog.

Invasion

  • Invades in Farron Keep, near the first bonfire, take a right turn outside and follow the wall towards the basilisks. Will not invade if Abyss Watchers have been defeated. 
  • Invades in Irithyll of the Boreal Valley, past the Silver Knight room, at the top of the first set of stairs.
    • If you assisted Sirris in killing Creighton the Wanderer, then you must be invaded by Creighton outside the Church of Yorshka bonfire before the Dark Spirit of Londor will invade you.

 

Drops

  • Souls: NG (7,196), NG+ (No change)
  • Weapons: Manikin Claws
  • The Pale Shade Set can be found in Firelink Shrine, near the location of Yoel and Yuria, after the Londor Pale Shade invader has been defeated in both Farron Keep and Irithyll of the Boreal Valley.
  • 2 Estus & 2 Ashen Estus refills

 

Combat Information

 

Dialogue

None

 

Trivia

  • Voice actors, character inspirations, fan art, cosplay goes here.

 

 

NPCs
Alva, Seeker of the Spurned  ♦  Anri of Astora  ♦  Archdeacon McDonnell  ♦  Black Hand Gotthard  ♦  Black Hand Kamui  ♦  Blacksmith Andre  ♦  Company Captain Yorshka  ♦  Cornyx of the Great Swamp  ♦  Corvian Settler  ♦  Creighton the Wanderer  ♦  Daughter of Crystal Kriemhild  ♦  Daughter of Crystal Kriemhild  ♦  Emma  ♦  Eygon of Carim  ♦  Filianore  ♦  Fire Keeper  ♦  Giant of the Undead Settlement  ♦  Great Swamp Cuculus  ♦  Greirat of the Undead Settlement  ♦  Hawkwood  ♦  Holy Knight Hodrick  ♦  Horace the Hushed  ♦  Irina of Carim  ♦  Jailer  ♦  Judicator Argo  ♦  Karla  ♦  Knight Slayer Tsorig  ♦  Lapp  ♦  Leonhard  ♦  Lion Knight Albert  ♦  Livid Pyromancer Dunnel  ♦  Locust Preacher  ♦  Longfinger Kirk  ♦  Lords of Cinder  ♦  Ludleth of Courland  ♦  Moaning Knight  ♦  Old Wolf of Farron  ♦  Orbeck of Vinheim  ♦  Painting Woman  ♦  Pickle Pee, Pump-a-Rum Crow  ♦  Pilgrim from Londor  ♦  Ringed City Hollow  ♦  Rosaria, Mother of Rebirth  ♦  Seeker of the Spurned  ♦  Shira  ♦  Shrine Handmaid  ♦  Silver Knight Ledo  ♦  Sir Vilhelm  ♦  Sirris of the Sunless Realms  ♦  Slave Knight Gael  ♦  Snuggly  ♦  Stone-humped Hag  ♦  Sword Master  ♦  The Painter  ♦  Unbreakable Patches  ♦  Velka the Goddess of Sin  ♦  Yellowfinger Heysel  ♦  Yoel of Londor  ♦  Yuria of Londor

 




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    • Anonymous

      I killed Pontiff with Pale Shade's aid but forgot to make the Darkmoon Loyalty to him, will I have another chance on this playthrough?

      • Anonymous

        I’m not sure anymore what does and what doesn’t trigger this guy’s invasion. I know it requires an embered state and maybe (maybe!) killing Creighton.
        No-hit runners say you need to be offline to keep NPCs from invading, and I took it that either meant in the game (nope) or on your Steam/console (Console-tested. Nope!)
        So the booger man shows up while I’m trying for an SL1 +0 weapon run. I would very much like to keep my embered state and know I don’t have a chance with Spammy McQuickstep over there, especially not with a Black Knight on my tail. So I use a Giant seed and sic the dogs on him. They slow him down but he comes at me. I decide the smart thing is to retreat into the kitchen and let the Knights use him for target practice. Somehow they missed and he shows up sliding across the floor and into the barrels. I run back outside and don’t look back until I reach the shortcut between Pontiff’s fog gate and Church of Yorksha. Now I’m at the bonfire but I can’t rest or quit the game because Pale Shade is still alive and at large.
        My solution? Turn the game off. It got rid of Pale Shade but I don’t recommend it. An embered state is not even worth risking my save file, but at the time I did it out of sheer bull-headedness. I love Dark Souls 3 dearly, but some features are just BS.

        • Ah yes, my personal hollow masked trap waifu, thanks Yuria, being a shriveled sausage was worth it after all, even helped me with SoC so yeah, 10/10 best phantom buddy of ds3, also cool dark balls with eyes

          • Anonymous

            For laughs, I let the Pale Shade follow me into the sewers where I spared all the centipedes and use a giant seed there.

            • Anonymous

              I was embered and I l’ve killed the pilgrim assassin in Church of Yorksha, so I expected Londor Pale Shade to invade me, but for some reason that never happened. Either it’s a bug, or you DO need to have assisted Sirris against Creighton (which I didn’t).
              I can’t be sure without trying again in another playthrough, but maybe someone might say whether or not that’s the case.

              • Anonymous

                I was doing the hollow quest, got to anri at Yhorshka chapel, then went and agroo yuria, killed the pale shade, went to ask for absolution and went and killed pontiff after that quest broke somehow as I can't get married to anri and yuria doesn't say that my spouse is ready. Don't know what happenened. I'm gonna try again see if it works this time

                • Anonymous

                  Hes the goat but does anyone else find it weird that they give you a technically nameless NPC as your main Phantom buddy for all the super important bosses? In DS1 you get Solaire, in DS2 you get Benhart (and Ray lol) and you go through Sullivan, Abyss Watchers, and end off the whole series with... a Londor Pale Shade. Like what? Lol
                  Again though, g.o.a.t.

                  • Anonymous

                    damn i didn't realize you had to get the 5 level ups to summon them for the abyss watchers, guess i won't be getting the duel bow on my current file

                    • Anonymous

                      now you are telling me that i shouldnt have killed sirris. I literally have to do new game plus AGAIN just for this gesture

                      • Anonymous

                        if you sent him home, after the first time you summon him to help, does he return? I set on the bonfire to get my Estus back, but I cant see the summon sign again

                        • Anonymous

                          I just checked it now, you'll get the first invasion in Farron Keep if you kill Yoel in the bridge, when you meet him at first.

                          • Anonymous

                            Ok so this armor set is the only thing ive never got ive put an insane amount of time i. These games basically cause i cant play anything else lol … i got yoel and the strength …. I killed yuria ….. i killed the pale shade in irythyll but i have never had him invade me in the farron swamp … for the love of God i make sure im embered and im over there where the basilisks are so whats the deal

                            • Anonymous

                              halp i disrupted my relationship with yuria and he didnt invaded

                              i got the yoel 5 lvl
                              and removed my dark sigil with fire keeper

                              • Anonymous

                                needs to be updated... invasion in farron swamp needs to be done early before abyssal watchers i assume... doing a pure faith run... just went to make yuria of londor peeved at me then went to place after silver knight room.... killed him there then went to farron swamp and the invasion didnt trigger... kinda bummed out... gota finish this run on 115 or under or ill never get that armour set reeee

                                • Anonymous

                                  "Becomes an invader if your relationship with Yuria of Londor is disrupted"
                                  Guess we're enemies for life then

                                  • Note about the second invasion: Creighton does NOT need to invade first.

                                    I ran ahead through the Irithyll sewers to go open the elevator and door shortcuts, and once I'd gotten past the Silver Knight room, LPS invaded. After dealing with it and opening both shortcuts, I immediately ran back to the Church and into the trigger spot, and Creighton invaded. This is on latest patch, PS4.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      I did this and Londor Pale Shade did NOT appear in farron keep:

                                      Send Yoel to firelink shrine and kill him without leveling up,
                                      kill holy knight hodrick in undead settlement,
                                      Kill yellowfinger heysel in crucifixion woods,
                                      Offer a pale tongue to Rosaria,
                                      look for Pale Shade in farron keep.

                                      I don't know what i did wrong, maybe you need to draw out true strength at Yoel 5 times first.
                                      If anyone could help me get Pale Shade to invade that'd be really nice. :)

                                      • I ALWAYS forget to do this before abyss walkers... i have done multiple play throughs at this point and dont have the set lol. You really have to plan, if you went without a guide a lot of this stuff would likely not be found by many of us.

                                        • Anonymous

                                          As of today (ver 1.35) I confirmed that you can both complete Yuria's questline and obtain the Pale Shade set.

                                          Here are the steps I followed:
                                          1. Start: Complete the quest line of Yoel of Londor to get Yuria to appear in Firelink Shrine and to begin her quest line.
                                          2. Once you reach Farron Keep, return to Firelink Shrine. Punch Yuria three times to make her hostile, then flee without killing her. Avoid her little cave for the following steps.
                                          3. Defeat the invading Londor Pale Shade in Farron Keep.
                                          4. Defeat the invading Londor Pale Shade in Irithyll (remember to kill the invading Creighton in the cliffside graveyard first).
                                          5. Immediately pay for absolution at the Statue of Velka.
                                          6. Return to Firelink Shrine. Yuria will no longer be aggro, and the Pale Shade set will be sitting next to her.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            also remember to go online in steam to make this work. i wasn't for about 15 minutes before i went online and it worked. you can still be offline in the game settings.

                                            • Anonymous

                                              So in my case, I happened to level up 3 times from Yoel and then killed him, AW still alive and trying to get Pale Shade to invade me in Farron Keep. He didn't until weirdly enough I went back to Firelink Shrine and talked to Hawkwood a few times as what worked for someone else as well to remedy this issue. And voila Pale Shade ready for the picking!

                                              • Anonymous

                                                He can be curse cheesed in Farron Keep if you pull out a Seed of a Giant Tree and let him aggro several basilisks.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  What if I helped Anri, but killed Sirris? Also, I forgot to get invaded at Farron Keep, but he invaded at Irithyll and I got the claws. Where do I get his set then?

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    Many people (including the info on this page) have said you can get this set and do Yuria's questline by aggroing her and then paying for absolution. I did this exactly as it says on this page. Aggro Yuria and kill pale shade in farron keep, pay to get her happy again, then aggro her again and kill pale shade the second time, and pay to get her cool with you again. I did this all before pontiff. I then summoned pale shade for pontiff as I was told that is also key to make this trick work. Pale Shade survived the boss fight and everything went down the way I was told to expect. However, the set never showed up. Does anyone know if this was patched as of 2019? I have also watched videos of people doing this, but the one thing I have noticed in all the videos I have seen where people picked up the set, is that Yuria was no longer present in Firelink when they got the set. I have not seen a single video where someone does the method described and still had Yuria at the shrine when they got the set. So for me, this seems to be a inconclusive and based on conjecture. Anyone have any insight into this? Thank you in advance for your time.

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      i *****ing hate the requirement about npcs that they can be triggered before some bosses. For example if you forget about only that invasion before abyss watchers you need to play the whole game again for loot. It's really annoying

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        Hey, right now im on the yorksha bonfire to confront sulyvhan, who desires the gottard gesture and the pale shade gesture come right now to the yorksha bonfire, Im sl 130.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          Would this alternate approach work for getting both equipment and gesture in one go: Summon Londor Pale Shade at Abyss Watchers to get the Duel Bow gesture, but do NOT beat the Abyss Watchers. Then go aggro Yuria and get invaded twice by Londor Pale Shade to get the equipment. After that, you can either absolve your sins to continue with Yuria's other stuff, or not.

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            For the Pontiff boss, I summoned the guy then died in the fight, then the summon sign didn't appear again so like can you only summon him once or something?

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              Should be added that you need to exhaust Hawkwood's dialogue for him to invade in Farron Keep. I'm in NG+3 and killed Yoel as soon as I saw him and then went straight to Farron Keep and turned to the right where he should invade, but he did not. Teleported to Farron Keep again and even walked all the way through the Basilisk area until I reached the Keep Ruins bonfire, but no Paleshade. Googled it and found a post of someone having the same problem but talking to Hawkwood fixed it and I can confirm it did.

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                What do you mean IT invades near the basalisks?! thats where Hazel invades, do I have to kill/Masochistically befriend Hazel in order for me to get paleshade to fuck with me?

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  this guy just doesn't invade me in farron keep. I'm embered, i haven't killed abyss watchers, i'm not following the hollow questline and i've checked the entire area where there are basilisks in farron keep and still no invasion. Any advice?

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    He would not show up for me at Soul of Cinder, does anyone have any idea why, i never aggroed yuria, I played through till the shell guy died, just didnt marry anri, and fucked up sirris quest by giving a pale tongue to the slug

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      isn't "he" a she? At least from the description of this set I get the impression that the Pale Shade is a woman.

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        I thought he was a real invader, so I sat by the church bonfire for about 45 minutes on my phone then fought and died to the boss

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          "You can recieve his equipment and gesture if you aggro Yuria by hitting her 3 times, run away, kill this invader twice, pay for absolution at Velka's statue, and summon him for Pontiff. Yuria will be friendly afterwards and no quest will be disrupted. Note however, that each invasion must be triggered before defeating the area boss (Abyss Watchers and the Pontiff, respectively) or the Pale Shade will not invade otherwise."

                                                                          i tried this today and can not confirm it working.

                                                                          Hit yuria until she aggro'ed
                                                                          Killed londor pale shade in the swamp
                                                                          Killed abyss watchers
                                                                          Killed londor pale shade in
                                                                          Payed for absolution
                                                                          Summoned londor pale shade for Pontiff
                                                                          Killed Pontiff
                                                                          Continued normaly through the game until i reached the area where the set should be located at (in untended graves)
                                                                          No set to be found

                                                                          Either the order of actions is not correct, or this tip doesn't work (anymore).

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            Does he just stop showing up in Farron Keep if you progress past a certain point? I got him to Invade in Irithyll, but try as I might, I can not get this fellow to show up in Farron.

                                                                            So here I sit. Quite in a pickle.

                                                                            • So, I was fighting the Abyss Watchers and had summoned Londor Pale Shade, but oddly enough, they had the rocky buff appearance of having used Havel's Shield?

                                                                              Either I got played and that was an actual player, or the Pale Shade has some new tricks.

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                It is possible to have the basilisks curse the Londor Pale Shade to death.
                                                                                When they invaded, I used a giant seed.
                                                                                Because the basilisks do not deal any damage and just build up curse, he just continued to walk slowly toward me, only to get cursed by 3 basilisks, and turned to crystal.
                                                                                Interestingly enough, the Londor Pale Shade's corpse disappeared as soon as the "Dark Spirit Destroyed" message appeared,
                                                                                which is odd because when player dark spirits get cursed to death, their body stays for a little bit longer.

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  I kill the Abyss Watchers with Londor Pale Shade (good term with Yuria) but haven't kill Pontiff, I also assisted Sirris to kill the Creighton the Wanderer and also kill him outside of Church of Yorshka bonfire. Would I still able to hit Yuria three times with a fist to break good term and still able to get invaded by Londor Pale Shade in Farron Keep and at Irithyll of the Boreal Valley, then paying for absolution at the statue of Velka in the undead settlementto get Yuria to be friendly, so I can recieve all the items without discontinuing the questline?

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    I got all the way through Yuria's questline without pissing her off, up until I was supposed to stab Anri in the face (I just left them waiting like a dumbass lol), then realizing I still needed the Pale Shade armor, I aggroed Yuria, but THE *****ING PALE SHADE NEVER SHOWED UP ANYWAY. So basically, if you want to get the goods while still being able to complete Yuria's questline by use of the Velka statue, I guess you have to upset her prior to that final step in Anor Lando...

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      REMEMBER : for PC user even you're embered and not defeated boss red invaders won't reappear anymore if you're offline

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        People are having trouble so here.
                                                                                        Go to faron keep bonfire,
                                                                                        head out the door,
                                                                                        take a right,
                                                                                        keep going through the swamp to the ***** ass curse salamanders.
                                                                                        You have to fight him in the swamp past where you get iron flesh, and it's a small pain.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          invasion at farrow keep is not working anymore as previous poster mentioned. just another glitch in this broken ass game!

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            i got the 5 levels from Yoel, went to the bonfire, he died, then Yuria showed up in Firelink. I bought what i need from her, so i aggroed Yuria and went to Farron Keep.
                                                                                            But this *****ing NPC won´t invade me. First time i reached Farron Keep, he didn´t invade me. I decided to explore the Cathedral and kill the Deacons, maybe it would trigger something. But, no. I returned there and no signal of invasions. Then, i made a backup of my save and killed Yuria, But guess what, he didnt invade me again. And, for the last attempt, i went to Velka statue and paid for my sins ( dammit, 186k souls ). And there was Yuria, non-hostile again. I killed this *****ing ***** again and GUESS ONE MORE TIME, yeah, exactly, F-U-C-K T-H-I-S G-A-M-E .. I really dont know what is going on. I cant kill the Abyss Watchers cause i want the pale set. And i was always embered.

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              Starting the questline but not leveling up with Yoel before he dies will make Pale Shade hostile towards you and invade you. It will also get Anri killed at the "wedding".

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                So I finally got him to invade me in the swamp and since he's a mastermind assasin he's just standing down there with the basalisks in the mud, casting his spells and attacking the rock wall, I'm testing to see if poison will kill him or if that's just wishful thinking of not having to do any work.

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  So I ended up getting killed by him in Farron Keep (git gud), so I decided to come back later. Got invaded again in Irithyll, ended up killing him, then killed the Pontiff. Now he won't invade me in Farron Keep. Did I ***** myself over, does he not respawn after all that?

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    Okay, so I'm in New Game +, didn't want to level at all (Level 120), I killed Yoel (I did speak to him before doing so however) before killing Deacons and Abyss Watchers. Pale shade wouldn't invade. I then killed the Deacons and got the Doll. Pale Shade still wouldn't invade. I then killed Anri and Horace at Firelink Shrine, and finally got the Pale shade to invade at Farron's Keep, so I'm thinking killing Anri and Horace was the trigger.

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      got the 5 dark sigils from yoel, then i cured them at velka's and then i got embered a farron keep perimeter bonfire and his white sign appeared at the corner and he performed the gesture normally, i may not get the hollow ending but im planning on a second play through anyways

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        Killing Yoel at Firelink before drawing out your true strength or talking to him at all does not cause the Pale Shade to invade you. If you want their set but don't want to level up, you need to kill Anri.

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          It should be noted that if you summon black hand gotthard first, before the abyss watchers, you will be unable to summon the Londor pale shade. (This can be remedied through the use of your black separation crystal.

                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                            Has 2353 health on NG+13... I don't know why I felt the need to share this. Also does a metric *****-ton of damage.

                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                              Be aware, do not kill the creature who gives us the 'camaleon' spell, near the bonfire church of yorshka. I do this stupid thing and Pale Shader invades me in the place mentioned.

                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                Idk if it's only on NG+ but killing Yoel before getting the dark sigils DID NOT make the Pale Shade invade. I was unable to get it to invade despite having killed Yoel, reloaded the area, and ran the length of the wall 4 different times.

                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                  it's stupid how the pale shade takes out half my health with each hit, very frustrating cuz you're almost @ the shortcut when this ***** invades

                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                    I used the Darkmoon Loyality gesture but he doesnt give to me Duel bow gesture :/ It was the Soul of Cinder boss

                                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                                      It should be noted that you cannot ask for absolution until after you kill the Pale Shade, or it will not show up as an invader. It took me longer than I'd care to admit to figure that out.

                                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                                        I didn't do the dark sigil thing so I decided I may as well try to get this guy as an invader. Problem is he hasn't invaded in either of the locations mentioned. I already killed Creighton when he invaded me outside the church which it says you're supposed to do.I did hear somewhere else that if you kill Pontiff Sulyvahn before this guy invades you then he won't show up at all. Is that true?

                                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                                          Can be summons for final boss alongside yuri, at least in Ng+ . Should be noted hear since it is referred to as London pale shade, at least for me.

                                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                                            can we talk about why this douchebag does so much damage? I mean in my experience he literally does the most single hit damage of any enemy in NG outside of some boss grab attacks.

                                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                                              It may be possible to get this set and the Usurper ending in the same playthrough. If you heal the Dark Sigil or kill and essential NPC, Yuria will leave. But I've aggro'd Yuria of Londor and the shade appeared in Farron. Then I asked forgiveness at Velka's statue and Yuria questline continued as normal. If you repeat this procedure at irithyll to get the second invasion, it is likely, though untested, that the set will appear and Yuria will not leave the shrine.

                                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                I was invaded by Londor Pale Shade in Farron Keep where the swamp gets deeper and there are several basilisks just to the right of the bonfire on my second playthrough, where I spent the entire game in ember form. I had been invaded by and killed Heysel elsewhere already, but in my most recent playthrough where I skipped Heysel I was invaded by him there instead. So perhaps there are any number of locations where either can invade you, with a priority on Heysel (or just a coin flip)?

                                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                  Does she invade you twice / can you get the Pale Shade set by killing her twice even if you never met Yuria on that playthrough?

                                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                    I know this NPC uses the Pursuers sorcery that was in the other 2 souls games so im wondering if anybody knows if theres a way to get it?

                                                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                      I think you might have to be at zero hollowing to see his sign at Farron Keep Perimeter. I refreshed the area four or five times with sixteen hollowing (immediately after death farming for Yoel) and didn't get him to pop until after I reset my hollowing at Velka.

                                                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                        Started a new character. I got Yoel to go to firelink but haven't done any of his "draw out your true strength" sessions. This phantom still appeared. I don't believe that info is correct.

                                                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                          Anyone been able to summon him NG+? It says here something changes in NG+ i guess and i have been unable to summon him for pontiff. Have 5 dark signs but killed the assassin to save Anri. He invaded like he normally does after the Silver Knight room and dropped the claws but no summon sign. Once more a whole playthrough without the gesture. -.-

                                                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                                                            Londor Pale Shade can be summoned in Kiln of the First Flame to help against Soul of Cinder. I'm not sure about the requirements for summoning him, but the summoning sign showed up on NG(2nd playtrough) with the Usurpation of Flame ending requirements met. The summoning sign is on the right side of the way up quite a bit before Yuria of Londor's summoning sign.

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