Heretic's Staff | Dark Souls 3 Wiki

is this wiki wrong? at 20 intelligence a +5 heretic's staff gives 123 spellbuff, while a +6 sorcerer's staff only gives 106. when does the sorcerer's staff become better? does it suddenly spike with upgrades?

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Its name really suits me,so I'll use it

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Dude.. this staff on the staves page shows 120 buff, here it shows 113.... This wiki I tell ya. Can't trust any info you see without double, triple, quadruple, centuple check, and then still only in the game screen you'll see it right

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Int 18 and this thing out-performs Sorcerer's Staff in ALL regards

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The info is wrong, I'm at 22 Int, and this has a spell buff of 120 at +2, and my sorcerer's staff at +2 is 110. This isn't a display error as the spells cast with the heretic staff do more damage.

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we have Beatrice's catalyst but not her armor set? disappointment 100 QwQ

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Been looking at staves to see which one I should chose on my character, and all the spell buffs are wrong. All the ones I have atm have much more spell buff than stated on the wiki. And these are all upgraded! Was there an update buffing spell buff and this wiki wasn’t updated, like, ever?

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Where is spell buff!!!

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This thing is just Ugly

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someone should seriously edit this. sorcerers only overtakes heretics for like 4 levels before this thing retakes the top spot all the way up to the point that CSS replaces it.

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Who knew you had to be so smart to hold and use a staff

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So for the deepest lore; This means Beatrice was a heretic? But she was trying to fight the abyss? Also there was an unused child model of Beatrice slightly linking her to Berserk's Schirke who is an angel. Hmm.... Hmmmmmmm..........

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IT SAYS YOU'RE A HERETIC

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I feel like it should have some kind of dark scaling because "Heretic"

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Meeting the str requirements does not affect spellbuff. It allows the use of the steady chant and removes the negative dmg scaling on the staffs physical attack. Note you can instantly meet the requirements by 2 handing!

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What would my spellbuff be at 24 intelligence.

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At 40 int this staff has more spellbuff than sorcerers staff (which is supposed to be better from +30 int)
heretic +4 = 174sb
sorcerer +5 = 169sb

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This staff is underrated for Assassin and other hybrid builds. I personally use a 40/40 Dex/Int build, and this staff gets me more damage at those stats than Court Sorcerer’s. Why, I don’t know, it just does.

This staff I find particularly useful for one who favors Thrusting Swords or Spears. The length of the staff extends the range of Farron Flashsword to an impressive distance with straight sword-like speed, granting a very cheap-to-cast crowd control option when your main weapon doesn’t.

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This info is wrong, the Heretic Staff Spell Buff is 120 at base.

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Heretic staff is best at lower int. It caps at around 30 int or something like that. Then the sorcerers staff would be best until 50 int. I'm only concluding what i read. Can someone confirm this?

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Best staff for 40 int

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What the point of this staff? It has almost 1to1 same stats as start staff.

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Even if you go to 60 INT USE THIS STAFF over the court sorcerer. at 50 int the damage is almost identical and at 60 the heretics does about 40 less damage than court sorcerers on high damage spells and 20 less damage on weaker spells. The less damage is TOTALLY worth the extra range on farron flashsword, ESPECIALLY if you are a pure caster. With heretics you can outrange any weapon with farron flashsword, and it hits behind you almost completely (unlike court sorcerers) Only use court sorcerers if you plan on not using farron flashsword.

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I frequently use the Farron Flashsword and Soul GS, and am /pretty/ sure this gives them the longest amount of reach. Can someone confirm/deny?

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So...best staff?

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For some reason on my xbox one game the heretic's staff spell buf is 60, not 120. any idea why this might happen?

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At 42 intelligence, Heretics +3 has 173 spell buff while Sorcerer's +4 has 174. Next upgrades take spell buff to 178 and 175 respectively. It'll be worth checking, but it might be the case that the Sorcerer's staff starts with a higher spell buff stat but gets overtaken by Heretics with enough upgrades. Granted, hardly enough to really matter, seeing the staffs you get later on, but you might save some resources by rushing this one instead of upgrading your starting staff.

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the spell buff stops going up at +9.thats when to switch to court sorcerers staff.hitting 840 without steady chant with crystal soul spear with crown of dusk, magic clutch,bellowing dragon crest,sages,and ring of steel protection.

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I used this staff until I found the Court Sorcerer's Staff; loved it to bits and felt sorry to let it go.

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It's the rogue witch Beatrice's staff from Dark Souls. https://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Beatrice's+Catalyst

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Got this and it has 118 spell buff. Tested and spells cast with this (no chant) did more damage than sorc staff+1/storyteller's staff+1.Spell buff goes to 119, 121, 122 for +1/+2/+3

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This is the correct staff to use until you can pump your INT very very high. At 40 INT and upgrading this +6 through +10 (possibly at lower levels too) this staff will out damage other ones. At high INT you probably want to switch over to Crystal Sages or Court Sorcerer's. If you pump FAITH high enough as well, Izalith Staff could be a contender.

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sorcerers staff beat this staff after 28 intel.tried +3 sorcerer vs +3 heretic.

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60 on Spell Buff is Wrong, i play with this staff on the German Version and IG Descriptiion says 110 Spell Buff at Lvl 0 and also my test shown that this Staff deals more DMG than the Sorcerer Start Staff at lvl 1 also his Spell Buff is increased by Upgrade the Staff with Titanite.

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