Lorian's Greatsword | Dark Souls 3 Wiki

even his sword is better the Lothric's, it really does suck to be him

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Is this works best for a pyro build?

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so good against friede cause of the reach and absurd damage

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I love landing a charged R2 for 1100+ damage

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This sword should do extra damage to the demon prince

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Devil sword dante

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Kinda disapointed that this and the profaned greatsword are so similar. same moveset, similar weapon skills, just feels like the profaned greatsword should have been something a little different than Lorians. :(

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One of those weird cases where the weapon in the icon looks entirely different from how it looks in-game, can't help but feel that the icon version of it also looks much better than the in-game model

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firelink gs if it was good

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that sword is kickašš cool looking

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I'm curious if the 'original' icon design still exists in the files, it looks sick. Maybe we'll see it in an Elden Ring DLC.

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Most favorite weapon in the entire game. Looks badass, not too heavy, burger flip WA, runs beautifully on a 30/30 Pyro build w/ STR/DEX at base requirements and two-handing brings you to the soft-cap with 720 AR (buffed w/ WA) and plenty of points left over for build diversity. 100/10

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I know at this point of the game the remaining bosses and dlc bosses are strong against fire but, dude, have you forgotten what is between those bosses? The frozen trees, the flies, the corvians, the murkmen, the haralds...?

Also, more physical damage than most boss weapons. People tend to forget that.

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Great sword to poke everything with,
5 stars

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The Anti Friede.

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Fun fact: Fully upgraded with 60/30 str dex the base AR when 2 handed is 666.

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I know the WA buffs but is the flame trail followup good for roll catching (particularly wakeups)?

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The burning rage I felt when I cashed in the Twin Princes soul, only for the greatsword to look nothing like it's art could've kindled the flame for a millenia.

That art looks badass, a fragmented, serrated rusty blade vs. what can only be described as an asylum demon's vibrator.

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does anyone know why the icon for both this and artoria's sword looks nothing like the actual ingame weapon?

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Hey check out how hard I can buff

FWSHHHHSHHSHSH

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Is it just me or does the in game sword look like the smelter demons

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I might be wrong but further testing makes me think the special stomp "Flame Of Lorian," weapon art actually has some hidden poise addition. At 25 poise I was able to take two hits from a great hammer so long as I was in the middle of using the art. I've tried it with weapons that have stomp and I never can pull it off as efficiently as I can with this sword.

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How much ar on quality build?

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If you see this at SL99 in duels, and your dodging game isn't on point, RUN. You'll oft get three-tapped by it.

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SInce I beat the Demon prince with a Valorheart, I'm using this weapon.

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It should leave traces of lava whenever it's fire buff is active, for lore reasons.

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if the pkcs guy comments on it, you know it's a good weapon

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Holy moly this UGS is the shittttiest of them all. And here I'm thinking about how terrific the struggle would be for some casul using this garbage sword to fight against godlike pkcs users. When other UGS (or perhaps all ds3 weapons) failed miserably against pkcs, you must be out of your damn mind to pick this shiit up.

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The image of this sword always confused me. The Icon itself looks like a flat steel sword while the model itself looks like a thicker Steel.

In my opinion, the icon looks more like a Scorched Black Knight UGS than Lorians. Maybe it's just the effects but I'm not the only one confused about this.

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It's a quality weapon that can shine midgame thanks to the fire damage and selfbuff. Only con is if you obtained it the game is almost over and rarely any boss left is weak to fire by then. All that makes it uninteresting to strive for. If you have a friend though just starting his run it's a perfect gift. And for ng+ players ofc.

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Trash weapon both PVP and PVE. Cant be buffed

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Probably the closest thing to a fire version of the Lothric Knight Greatsword, which is pretty funny since you can find both in Lothric Castle.

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The stomp wa of this weapon is the best against big enemies because it hits twice, and hits really hard.

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Ppl should stop forgetting that this ultra's damage is mostly physical. Fire damage becomes a serious threat with the buff of it's wa, but it's still a big hunk of black, sharpen steel and hurts as such.

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Look like demon sword dante

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"This spot marks our grave. But you may rest here too, if you like..." Well totally worth the efford :)

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I would rather have the sword in the icon, this thing doesn't even look like an actual sword. It really fits the lore better, that he defeated the demon prince with it, but his sword was eternally scorched in flames.

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haha lothric knight go flip

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40/60/60/60 = 775AR, 855with weapon art, 905 with Fire Clutch Ring. Scatters knights like rag dolls. Potentially the strongest UGS in entire game because of it's scaling from all stats. There is only one downside, you need Favor Ring +3 just to be able to perform 5th attack.

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Ok straight up. This weapon has one of the best danages in the game at high SLs, it can rival a dark lothric GS and has 1 point more AR than a dark exile GS with 60/60/60/60. Not to mention the fire and sword can stack on the WA R2. Also it looks AMAZING and the lore is just as badass. 9.3/10, would definately shove up aldrich's ass again.

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With 66 strength, 40 dexterity, 27 intelligence, and 45 faith this weapon has an AR of about 763, and the WA is 843

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firelink ultra greatsword

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Good, fun boss weapon. Not as long as the (ultra) greatsword, but its sweeping R1s and thrust R2s make up for that. The most pure fun I've had in Dark Souls 3 was using this to fight the wolves in the Painted World DLC. They're fast and agile, but hitting them felt pretty easy with Lorian's Greatsword. Scaling is best for STR/DEX characters, but if I were to build specifically for this weapon, I'd put INT/FTH at about 15/15--just enough for utility spells like Hidden Body, and Tears of Denial. I'd be tempted to even put INT to 18 for Snap Freeze (though I'm still unclear regarding the interplay between fire and frostbite). My current build is at SL95 with 28 STR, 12 DEX, 27 INT, and 20 FTH, so it's is nowhere near maximizing the potential power of Lorian's Greatsword, but it still feels plenty powerful when taking this into the Ringed City on a regular NG.

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use the weapon art to buff any other ultra gs and never use it use the profaned greatsword it's better in every way

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No one gonna mention that the sword looks nothing like the image the game/wiki shows. The picture shows a broken crossguard facing away from the hands and a dull rusted looking blade. Where as ingame it's more of an orange glowstick of destiny with no crossguard and a weird indent on either side.

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For a 40/40 quality build this is the weapon with highest AR possible in the game

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Viability aside, I use this thing just for looking so metal

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The image doesn't do this weapon's good looks justice. So far the second most fun I've had using a UGS in DS3 imo (Ringed Knight Paired GS is obviously #1)

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Standard/Trust not Strike/Trust

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This sword is glitched in my current playthrough, and even though it says it weighs 14, it adds 26 to my load

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This sword disappoints me a little bit. It's DMG while OK isn't significant and the one thing no true lover of this weapon can deny. The picture of the word in the inventory no where no matches the physical appearance of the weapon. That sucks. But the move set is great for button mashers.

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Was rocking this weapon and got summoned as a spear of the church. The host bum rushed me as I spawned in. Must have forgot about the spears that come up with you because he got stuck in them for massive damage. One WA later and he went flying and was dead before he even hit the ground. Quickest PvP victory I've ever achieved lol.

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fun fact #187: did you know that the projectile fire from the weapon art can travel up walls

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I actually rocked this thing using all 4 of the stat rings at once at sl 120. Became my favorite UGS almost immediately.

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Just use a profaned greatsword.

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This weapon looks just like the bitter end from Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen

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Lorian's greatsword best Ultra with the profaned greatsword.

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Ironic that SoC is strong against fire. Demon Prince, too. And Midir. Nameless King isn't impressed either. Nor his pet. Lorians GS is only good against Friede really. PvP aside it is one of the most useless weapons this late in the game where you want either a dark or a lightning weapon. But not fire.

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Duel welding this + Demon's Greataxe makes me cum

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so which is better lorians greatsword or the lothric knight greatsword?

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Weapon art adds 80 fire damage.

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Has anyone tried a 40/40/40/40 build yet? And if so how much damage does it yield when refined to plus five?

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Does it do strike damage now? I see in ingame description standard/thrust, although attacks on Gael (who is weak to strike) do good damage

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change the w.a to the charge light wave he does instead of a fire one

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The description must be talking about some other demon prince, because the Demon Prince I know is still kicking (much to my anger) in the Ringed City DLC

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The rusty old sword transformed into EXCALIBUR! "Now go, chosen one. Slay Julius for the sake of this world and all living beings!"

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Funnily enough... On a 27 STR 40 DEX build, you can still pull off 731 AR while 2-handing with the WA buff. That's an extremely cheap investment for 700+ AR. A yes, it's split damage, but so is the DGS, buffed Lothric Knight Greatsword, and buffed Mad King's Crucifix. Compared to Yhorm's and Ledo's, this thing is more stamina efficient, and it has a better movepool.

Even more interesting, a +9 simple infused offhand will yield more than enough FP regeneration to cover the cost of the WA's buff; allowing for a perpetual 731 AR.

...And hysterically enough, courtesy of this thing's high Fire damage, you can easily riposte for over 800 damage in PvP, no Hornet Ring required.

Ahhhh... My beloved Simple Llewellyn Shield and Lorian's GS... How many edgelords have we rekt?

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with enough inteligence dex and strength... its power attack and the power withing spell your damages goes to 1000+....

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So this is basically just a better Propaned Greatsword, yeah?

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so why exactly is this sword considered really strong? it had four freaking D scalings o.O" (okay, like if ur at very high levels it will deal big dmg, same as artorias pure greatsword somehow)

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Lorian you kinda suck at slaying demons.

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WHY DOES THIS NOT LOOK LIKE THE ICON!?

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I do believe that Lorian's GS got nerfed in terms of weight and stamina usage from Patch 1.11. It was 13.5 and now it's 14.0 and while I could swing other similar UGS like Profaned and Astora up to 5 times with 40 END and a RoF+1, I could only swing Lorian's GS up to 4 times only.

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i wanna do a gwyn cosplay should i use this or profaned greatsword?

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This is honestly my favorite Ultra Greatsword. Great moveset, incredible range, hyper armor stomp/attack combo, and comes with a self buff. The stat scaling is very lenient so it lends itself to a multitude of good builds, although best results of course is a good emphasis on Str/Dex with some Faith/Int thrown in. I ran with 35/35/15/15 for the longest time and it's still garnered me best results for this sword in particular, but something like 35/30/20/20 or some variation's fine too. Even if you just stuck to physical stats, or kept baseline physical stats to wield it and had some sort of pyro-centric build with a good chunk of int/faith its still a really good weapon imo.

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I recommend using Black Fire pyromancies as an offhand, for enemies resistant to Fire, I.E. Demon King, Soul of Cinder

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With 45 str/ 20 dex/ 22 int and faith, plus the fire clutch ring and its own buff, this weapon has an AR of 757, 665 without the buff.

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guys i don't know which is better : twin princes' gs or lorian ugs ?

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I know this has been discussed a little in regard to Izalith, but with the release of the concept art I actually stopped to wonder if the Demon Prince is in reference to their brother, Ocellote? He would be a prince for certain as he comes from the royal family and the artwork depicts a queen holding a demon baby. It's only a theory, but it would be interesting and add more back story to the princes of the family. The whole family seems to be 'cursed' with something outside of the undead curse, perhaps the origin could even be Ocellote.

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I'm not entirely sure, but it seems that since one only needs to do the initial "stomp" portion of the weapon art to apply the buff, that in terms of FP cost, this weapon has the cheapest buff in the entire game not counting consumables.

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At 45 Strength and 20 Dexterity it haves 606 AR.

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A simple off hand +9/10 will refill all the fp used for the L2 only before the 45 secs pass. Pressing L2 adds the extra dmg and only costs 10 fp. I have an offhand simple caestus (I mever parry, i suck too bad at is) cause its light af. This will allow you to keep the weapon buffed at all times, provided you do not switch out your simple gear or the sword.

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To people that say that the sword icon is different from the sword itself and also say that this is something to do with the lore... is probably incorrect. This is probably just a bug and what the sword was meant to look like before the game was released. If it was meant to be like this then why doesn't the Black Knight Sword icon look like the Silver Knight Straight Sword from DKS1?

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This or the dragon slayer greataxe? In terms damage per hit fully upgraded and lvl 40 in scaling stats

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Is it just me or does the Lorian Greatsword image look completely different from the weapon itself?

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if you focus your build on vigor endurance and strength than this will absolutely destroy everyone in your path if you can time your hits with this monstrosity

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Am I alone in wanting the icon greatsword? I mean this weapon looks great, but I feell like this is the corrupted or cinder version of the sword while the icon is his natural sword or damaged when he fought the demon prince. I would like to have both

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My god this sword just wrecks face in PVP. The art alone adds damage. But the art stance with a heavy attack gives you hyper armor to just send those rollers flying. And then just heavy thrust them while they are getting up and it's GG because the thrust on this sword has got some serious range.

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I know its a minor gripe. But really? why do they not match?

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So how much damage is actually added when you use the weapon art?

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Please don't say both, I know it's both, but I want to know which one it scales more with.

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This is probably by far the coolest-looking sword in the game. On one and, it is molten, but does not look rusted/broken as a good half of the game's equipment, on another it's not absurdly fancy like most fantasy swords.

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Tried to get the max damage possible in the game:Lorian's Greatsword+5Fire clutch ringLloyd's sword ringflynn's ringRed Tearstone Ringand Power within pyromancy The total AR togther with its special buff is 1178. LOL

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Could you use the scaling on this for a str/int build?

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Quality build makes this weapon far better than most great swords and even the Firelink Greatsword. From did a good job of putting its requirements just out of reach for a SL1 Deprived PvP build

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At about SL 120 you can hit 900 dmg easy with a charge r2 or the weapon art for around the same dmg

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Probably the strongest UGS in the gameI've got 800 with the buff. Ridiculous damage especially when you consider that this weapon buffs itself, has innate fire which means fire clutch ring boosts damage still further. It's not all that heavy and has faster attack speed than a lot of other weapons its size. Ridiculous weapon

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Is this greatsword worth the scaling if I go 50/50/50/50? Thinking about using this for a late-lategame weapon similar to greatsword of artorias from dks1.

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PLEASE do not add your scaling to the tables, add only the base damage. When the game shows something like xxx + xxx in the equip menu, only the first numbers are the base damage, the second set of numbers (after the +) are the bonus scaling your character gets from his stats.

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What material does this upgrade with? I'm doing a full str build with heavy weapons and I want this in the arsenal

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