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If Raw infusion was made into a weapon.

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People forget that when Dark Souls 3 came out, this weapon used to be broken for lower level PVP (think Farron Woods). With a raw infusion, this thing would outclass pretty much every other weapon besides Dark Hand and maybe Dragonslayer's Crescent Axe buffed with Lightning. It was so monstrous that they nerfed it into nothingness. I think the nostalgia factor of this sword is immense and visually it's very pretty. I'm sad it couldn't find a niche after it was nerfed so hard.

-Con

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I guess if you’re solely focused on attack damage and killing enemies/bosses as quickly as possible then yeah this sword isn’t the best. But I just beat the game with this raw infused version and it was so much fun not spending every moment focused on what my strength was and how much damage I was dealing out.

Its low weight allows for heavier armor without fat rolling, and I given that I’m terrible at parrying. It’s perfect for my agile tank play style

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It's amazing how in a straightforward physical build, this piece sucks... but yet, raw, infused with fire or dark, or poisoned/bleeded... it's a much more effective weapon, and to sweeten that deal, it's 18 stamina to swing this bad boy instead of 20. So, low level builds, or builds specialized in non-damage stats, or just the sorcerer build made with pyromancer and just enough faith to use tears of denial, can all use it to diversify their damage types still.

It's also okay hollowed, doing a slight hint more damage than a plain old longsword infused with hollow. It's no match for it's brother in damage, Anri's Straight Sword, but still it has the lower stamina per swing advantage, thus giving it an added bonus to luck builds lacking in endurance... or to even people just not interested in regeneration over +5 luck when hollow-formed, and it's gotten earlier on for those not planning to kill Anri early.

That said, back to physical damage... we all know that physical is -still- not it's main thing anymore... even shortsword can outdo this thing, and swinging one costs only 17 stamina, and that only takes 2 weight.
But, earlier in the game, this thing can outdo an uninfused shortsword, so it might still be useful if you are going to incidentally meet the stat requirements early, before moving back to use the shortsword or passing onto other weaponry.

[Of course, this is just me recapping all i've read about this weapon, and what i've tested in-game on a slow day while curious... and toying with character stats. If someone wants to use it on a physical dex/str build just for swag souls, then who are we to judge?]

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Flyns ring gave 49+ physical attack so its not useless the other weapons got a boost of 23-35 physical attack

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If the average astoran was equipped with weapons like these no wonder the land fell to ruin.

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If you're looking to use this, imo it fits best on +2 > +7 tanky Raw builds. Comparable AR to longsword, lower stat requirements than Lothric knight straight sword, lower stamina use than either. LKSS is better overall, but Astora is a fun, scrappy alternative at lower levels. It really should've had a base E faith scaling to better compete at +10, it's a shame seeing a beloved weapon sink into obscurity.

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They did my boy dirty ;_;

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At 40 Str, 40 Dex, 12 Faith, 9 Int, 7 Luck (knight start, quality build + base req), uninfused is higher AR than any physical infusion

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Did some blue sentinel counter ganks with this thing and killed multiple twinks with it at +1 and a flynn ring equipped. Sitting at around 161 AR at SL20. Broadsword does more damage, but it's range is bad and so is it's move set. If you use the thrust attack at different intervals it's really hard for parry fishers to get a read on you.

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Store brand Anri's

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Ah, bookends. I beat Dark Souls 1 using it's version of this weapon, and Just beat Dark Souls 3 for the first time today by using a Lightning Infused +10 Astora Straight Sword. You've served me well my friend.

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To anyone who wants to use this weapon, to get the best results you'll want to have around 40 Strength, 40 Dexterity and 32 Luck (37 when Hollow) and use the Hollow infusion. You'll get 448 AR one-handed and 457 AR two-handed, however this is still outclassed by the Long Sword at these stats, but it's actually good damage making it usable.

The Hollow infusion is the ONLY infusion that this weapon benefits from in a way that keeps it's damage viable. In fact when one-handed at 40 in Strength, Dexterity and Luck it's in a tie for 2nd place in AR for Strait Swords with the Long Sword just behind the Broadsword. However it drops behind the Refined Broadsword and the Hollow Long Sword when two-handed.

It's a shame that this weapon is so difficult to use in the late-game, the ONLY reason that I know this is because I was trying to figure out how to make this weapon viable on a Knight of Astora theme build.

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What a disappointing weapon... Truly a shame that the iconic sword of the series was reduced to this. Literally worse than the very basic Longsword you get as a starting knight. Heavy infusion does nothing on it, sharp doesn't do much better. Refined on quality seems to be the way to go, but even then Lothric SS will win in both damage AND range.

That being said: i think there is ONE niche role that this sword fulfils: a Raw Gem saver.
When you find this sword - if you compare it to the other unupgraded and uninfused weapons including Broadsword - you'll find that it will deal higher damage than any of them. Now yes, they will out-damage it once infused with raw but that's the point. At a small price of some FTH and minor hit to early game damage output you get to keep the gem for a better time. Just don't use it on ASS itself, it will give it like 4% extra damage which is a complete waste.

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Bruh, the A.S.S has received hate cuz Longsword is overused. Simple as that. Not anything wrong with that, since Longsword is a safe choice, but it get dull when everyone uses it. I catch myself thinking 'oh god longsword user again' in any DS game I play nowadays.

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Why do people hate this weapon so much, it does similar damage to the higher damage swords and can beat almost all the other straight swords at +10 uninfused. and the swords only downside is the faith requirement, but 12 is quite low in early game, so the only classes that cant use it are going to be the mages and assassins. It's also worth noting, this weapon consumes slightly less stamina then the straight sword.

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Just in case some are not aware, during the same patch that made this sword an outclassed pointless weapon, the Broadsword got a buff, and I according to a 100% walkthrough I watched by GheyForGames on Youtube, they state that the buff the raw boardsword gets gives it the same stats that the ASS used to have before the nerf. I'm personally not a big fan of the boardsword because of the range and moveset, but its got the same WA and is literally found on the other side of the same room that you find the ASS and can easily carry you through the first half of the game PvE. So they basically just switched the damage values in the patch between these two weapons. A +10 raw Boardsword has a 322 AR and has no faith requirement, just 10 str and 10 dex.

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The wiki says it was nerfed, but in which way? It used to do more damage or it scaled better?

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Why even use this when Anri's SS exists? Low level builds I guess?

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Holy **** I'm dumb, how the f* did I never notice the place you get this
I swear I only got to find it because I got the sword in the Cinders Mod and it didn't look like it was added with the mod

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I miss the days where this used to be my go to weapon. I still remember hitting 173 with R1 to enemies at High Wall when infused with raw.

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Honestly not a bad sword. Can get 400+ ar with hollow infusion, has stamina cost equal to the shortsword, and S tier in Fashion Souls.

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the one good Iooking ss in the game and its terribIe

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MG this ss sucks ass. Like seriously it's the worst all. I was about to assert my dominance with my pkcs but now I feel bad.

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Since no one seems to know, this is a quality str/lck weapon. At 40/40 str/lck it rivals Anri’s SS with the same stats and beats out a few others. The “problem” is it’s a QUALITY weapon but, not the kind people wanted, meaning everyone wanted it to scale with faith. The “good ol days” as they say. That being said, as quality weapons go it isn’t bad. It hard caps at 40/40 like others, has over 400 AR, has thrusts and works well as a raw weapon for pure faith builds. Making it a lightning infusion also makes it powerful on pure faith builds, on par with any other straight sword you could use on the same build more or less. As far as Anri’s goes, the only thing Anri’s SS does better is the innate heal and being a non-quality weapon. Ultimately it depends on what you want, quality weapon or pure scaling weapon. Saying Astora’s is bad is like saying the Black Knight weapons are bad because you can get more AR on a different build.

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Wow I’m surprised at the negative comments. This has been my primary weapon for my very first run and it’s worked wonders. I have it infused raw +10 currently and I use carthus flame arc I just beat champ. Gundyr and dragon slayer armor with it. Some bosses I had to switch to a different weapon, but overall I’m very satisfied.

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I just finished another run with this forgotten sword and I'd say, it's 'challenging'.

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I dont know why people hate this weapon, it's a broadsword with thrusting R2 if you are not interested in scaling. And even if you are this weapon rarely needs an extra hit to kill an enemy comparee to other SS. It's also longer than a broadsword. And it doesnt even need scaling. This is a really good SS for invasions you dont need to scale it just get around 25 vigor and 25 vitality and you're good to go. It can also be buffed which means it has the means of dealing with nasty bosses weak to certain elements. Overall not too bad again it requires not stat investments.

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Hollow infused at 50 luck, it rivals lothric knight ss wtf

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Hi should i go with 35 luck or 40 luck? Do i get still 40 luck when im hollowed so i can save that 5 level?

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I used it on my level one run and it worked really well with a raw infusion but becomes useless when you get to the dragon slayer armor because the attack bounce off since you don’t meet the faith requirements

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It actually works well when hollow infused.

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the fashion on this is top tier

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Like it was in the first game, it's a crutch until mid game, then it become pretty worthless. You can go Faith and get it Blessed, or infuse it Raw. Trust me, ditch it when you the Boreal Valley.

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If you picked a starting class that has 10 faith or more I highly recommend this weapon. Available early in the game and has damage comparable to the LKS and BS right out the chest. Infuse it with raw and this sword will carry you all the way to irthyll, although this shouldn't be your main weapon. The scaling on it are subpar and are outclasses by the other SS. Overall, a fantastic early game weapon, but a mediocre main weapon.

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Is it just me or a I so blind that i did not find it in NG, Ng+ and NG++, and Ng+++ until NG++++. I ham unhappy! overall not a trash weapon, not great though. ಠ_ಠ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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this thing is a straight sword that can be infused and buffed and deal more base damage than the wolf knight greatsword and the stormruler which are greatswords, and yet people underrate it so much, i wish i would see more people using this... damn

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can anyone explain why i dont see anyone use this even though it has this massive damage and yet still can be buffed and infused??? i mean it probably has one of the biggest damage among all straight swords, and yet people just rather using lothric knight sword :/

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Costs less stamina than the long sword and it's fashion as fridge, so it has its uses.

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Best when Hollow infused. At 60 luck and base requirements gets 1 point of AR difference from Anri's SS and can be buffed

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I lost it :( I was tryng to trade varius items with Picklepum and i falled down... And, of course, it disappeared. Is there no way to reobtain the sword in this playtroug? A box of lost stuff like in sekiro or a chest like in ds1? Anyway, sorry for my english guys. Im pissed off for this falling because I'm just started the playthroughand I'm still in the undead settlement. I' Hope that was not a invaluable weapon, because I have still to choose my build and I was to pondering a faith build.

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This use to be my favorite sword, so I wanted to see how viable it still is. For low SLs, it's slightly weaker in it's Raw form then the Longsword, however, it uses less Stamina per swing meaning it can deal more damage per Stamina bar. At +4, 20/20 is the breakpoint to get rid of Raw. Surprisingly, it does better with no Infusion then Heavy/Sharp/Refined. That stays true for the life of this sword. It's either Raw or no Infusion, everything else sucks. At 20/20 +4, it's only 5 AR behind Raw Longsword or Sharp Lothric. That's pretty much the breakpoint. If you're pumping STR, it's always a few AR behind the Long Sword. If you're pumping DEX, it falls behind the Lothric Sword quickly. If you want Raw or Quality, the Broadsword is the new top dog. But, if you're running a low stamina caster, it's still a great sidearm due to the low Stamina usage.

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You only get about 1-2 extra swings than the longsword, but with less stamina consumption, that little bit of stamina can save your life

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I really wish fromsoft had finally made a half decent astora straight sword, but no, i cant have my astora knight cosplay because miyazaki decided "lets just make this weapon objectively***** in every game". Like ffs, if it was just a longsword copy i would be happy. Even some form of half decent scaling with an infusion would make me happy. Thanks fromsoft

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how did it get nerfed so bad?

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Gud

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Considering damage and scaling, I would call it A$$tora Straight Sword

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why does this have better scaling with dark rather than chaos?

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For people who wonder if this sword shine anywhere or if it's just worse version of others straight swords. Astora sword not good as raw infused weapon anymore, but it's one of the best choises if you go poison\bleed infusion. Here some tests. (BL=bleed, PO=poison) +10 upgrade, 60 luck, 12 str, 11 dex short sword BL 76 PO 85 AR 180 longsword BL 74 PO 83 AR 198 broadsowrd BL 74 PO 83 AR 210 astora sword BL 81 PO 91 AR 217 barbed sword BL 82 PO 42/80 AR 197 lothric sword BL 77 PO 86 dark sword BL 74 PO 83 So, if you're playing luck build and want some bleed/poison straight sword, barbed sword and astora sword are the best ones. (barbed sword deals more damage with bleed, but has less range, more stamina consumption and 20 less AR)

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This used to be my girl for spellcasting builds: hit like a modest truck with Raw infusion, carried me though battles where melee was unavoidable. But they done hurt my baby. They hurt her so bad.

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Great with raw infusion and using the herald or the cleric! Outside of that not much to be done.

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after the nerf it got it's literally a useless weapon, no need for pick it up, not even at low soul level since you need to invest on faith and a long sword doesn't need that, it has actual scaling and it's is basically 10 times better.

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so i deal 230+ less damage than a lothric knight straight sword with a dark infusion, a bit less of range compared to the lothric sword and a terrible scaling for a few swings? seems legit. this weapon is barely good for a few places and then you should delete it from your inventory after sl 35 tbh.

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1000 hours in game and on ng+6 and just found out this existed

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ligma

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So this just seems like a less spicy version of Anri's sword that does a bit more base damage. Any truth to that or..?

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Why would I bother infusing this with ANY gem? At +8 regular it's at 232 + 82 for me... that's 314 attack. That's MORE then the +10 RAW at 301 total... Went back to the shrine and checked the blacksmith, Refined +8 is 208 + 100 (308), Raw +8 is 270, Crystal +8 is 335 total, Simple +8 is 307 total... everything's lower. Top that off, my +8 regular with 314 attack jump to 389 when I use Magic Weapon on it (buffing it with more attack). Wouldn't be able to use Magic weapon if I infused it, meaning crystal version's weaker... simple would regen some FP but it's even weaker then crystal. I infused some other weapons making them better, like my Heavy Spiked Mace... why is it any infusion on THIS sword just sucks? lol Or am I missing something?

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Maybe it doesn't matter to the people who say it is trash but it consumes less stamina than the lothric knight , depending what you're fighting extra swings are important.

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+10 raw, only the stats to wield (so start herald) all stats go to massives hp, good fp, stam, and a little equip load to go with my +3havel, +3rofap, +3 steel protection and prisoners chain, and then I spank you in the Spears of the Church with my raw A.S.S., miracles to heal B^)

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oh oscar we will not forget you .Rest in peace good friend...rest in peace.

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Funny how this has a (relatively high) Faith requirement but the Astora Greatsword doesn't have any. Oh well, I guess FROM is like matters of faith: involving logic with them will only result in frustration.

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Only if you hollow, is inferior only to Anri's, because Anri's work with carthus rouge, the damage i'ts pretty the same, that is superior than any straight sword

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Makes a nice backup weapon on my herald for those fast enemies who slip between my lothric spear pokes. And it's pretty, too.