Crystal Sage's Rapier | Dark Souls 3 Wiki

Be cool if you could slash with it, like the an estoc, since it's what the Crystal Sages do.

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This could be the only pure physical dmg INT weapon, with scaling like blessed infusions, hell maybe even make it buffable (some equivalent to the sunlight sword), ah well even in ER From poops on mages

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Is it just me, or does this thing have BIZARRELY high Dex requirement for what is obviously a caster weapon?

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It's such a pretty sword that it's a shame it doesn't have a unique WA/moveset

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I poked an undead settlement hollow with this, you'd do more damage with your fists, nice drop rates though

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The farming stick

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Here's a little tip: put it in your left hand. You can still 2h or dodge or both, you'd have the increased item discovery without having to use this shitty weapon.
I never use a shield anyway

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I like how it looks and that it helps me farm stuff. If it were ALSO good damage it would be OP, at least in PvE

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Not a bad weapon for a mage, if you meet the hefty requirements. Decent damage, great reach, low weight, it even shuts down quickstep spamming invaders because of the speed and counterattack boost

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This is a great PvE weapon. Does respectable damage to mobs, has nice range and increases Item Discovery. Not so great in PvP, although it does add some range to a Int-based melee build when used in the off-hand.

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Oh how much I wished this thing would've been viable.. I love the design of this weapon so hard. It's such a shame. The split damage makes it even worse.

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This thing should scale S with Int.

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I won a duel with this trash weapon at meta sl wheres my early release copy of elden ring

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One day, a mad lad will use this as an actual weapon.

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it looks good for farm and i have 27str 11dex and 99 int should i upgrade it? Or double wield it?

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Another weapon with a great concept and absolute **** execution. What person decided that it should only get a D in dex when it’s a damn rapier?

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"Cool looking crystal infused rapier"

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As of 2020 Crystal Sage's Rapier item discovery buff will only activate if the player has it equipped in an active slot and is shown wielding it in either hand. Putting the Crystal Sage's Rapier in an active slot but not wielding it will not increase your item discovery.

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CSR: what is my purpose? :Everyone: You Boost Item Discovery, :CSR:...oh my god

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I really wish I could have this equipped in an nonactive slot and still get the item discovery buff.

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Anyone got another one dpare, that woudltn mine losing for say one of the twin princes boss soul weapons, I asking to trade basically, I'd rather not farm in Ng+, because I got the spell, completely forgetting about item find bonus, like the idiot causal I am

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Added softcaps & Scaling information

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Fellow sorcerers, i'd recommend to give this weapon a try. It scales primarily with Intelligence (going from 18 Dex to 60 gives like 30 AR, not worth it) , it's the longest rapier so it'll keep melee threats away, and it looks awesome. You also get a sweet item discovery boost.

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The stat requirements for this weapon are ridiculous. 13 strength? Really? Rapiers are supposed to be dex weapons, and all the other rapiers require 10 or less. But this one is ultra dumb, as it's also the second most dexterity intensive (only Ricard's Rapier requires more). Any way, the stat requirements are what kill the weapon for a pure intelligence build. At meta level and just passing through the game, casters are starved for stat points to invest in attunement and endurance to have enough FP and stamina to cast and attack. Also, the scaling isn't all that impressive, crystal infused estoc and rapier will usually outdamage it. Though it does have the longest reach of all rapier's, I don't think that is enough to save it.

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I love using this sword in PVP. Annoys the hell out of a lot of players, lol. Dodge, poke, dodge, poke, dodge, poke. Just when they get frustrated and run at me.. Bam! Weapon art fills em full of holes.. lol.

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am I the only one who get unluckier with this rapier equiped? i’ve made many test of 107 item discovery and 157... here’s my stats of 200 tries each over the time of my farming ... winged knight halberd (107 7/200). (157 3/200). warden twinblades (107 7/200). (157 6/200). cathedral knight’s greatshield (107 15/200). (157 12/200) faaron convenant item thing (107 10/200) (157 9/200) embers ( 107 28/200) (157 30/200) handmaiden’s knife ( 107 11/200) (157 14/200) rotten ghru spear (107 39/200) (157 23/200) symbol of avarice (107 22/200) (157 6/200) « yep never farming this ever again with the rapier » great machete (107 27/200) (157 13/200) blessed gem « tested on high wall of lothric’s winged knight (107 3/500) (157 0/500) , yes , this one took me 2 weeks and a huge pain in the ass... lothric’s greatshield (107 18/200) (157 18/200) poison gem (107 6/200) (157 3/200). heavy gem (107 7/200) (157 9/200) sharp gem (107 4/200) (157 5/200) hollow gem (107 6/200) (157 14/200) silver knight’s shield (107 39/200) (157 15/200) story teller staff (107 38/200) (157 40/200) great corvian scythe (107 47/200) (157 44/200) blood gem (107 17/200) (157 10/200)..... i have finally proven me and those who believe me that these stats shown above , can proove this item discovery is a lie , the average item drop from without the rapier is staticticaly higher than with the rapier equiped... I would even say , that the rapier gives a randomised item discovery buff , depending of the item , it has its proper buff applied to that item. you can agree what my stats got , or disagree and put your results in the comment section... and no , i’m not doing this all over , it took way too long.

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MMMMMmMMmmm mmmmmmmmM!

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these stat reqs are downright silly

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To add to the eternal "Crystal Estoc or Crystal Sage's Rapier" debate, here are my numbers from the current (and final?) version:

Stats: INT60, DEX18, STR16
Crystal Estoc +10 damage: 126+24 PHYS, 126+132 MAGIC = 408 AR
Crystal Sage's Rapier +5: 100+11 PHYS, 150+133 MAGIC = 394 AR

Although the overall AR is almost identical, in practical terms it feels like the Crystal Estoc usually does slightly more damage due to the higher physical component. All in all it doesn't make much of a difference which you use except that the movesets are not the same and the Rapier gives the juicy item discovery bonus.

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It may just be my imagination (I am 100% certain it's my imagination) but it seems like the drop rate is HIGHER when you actually use the rapier to kill, as compared to just holding it.

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Probably good if you're gonna use it for it's range. A quick, long weapon is an efficient tool for sorcerers. It's also specialized for INT scaling, so builds with low physical stats could probably use this. There are other alternatives for better damage though, but they aren't as convenient. Either they're slower, shorter, or consume FP, pretty much.

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Anyone have a spare? Need it for the id. Trying to farm sword grass for the ring. Psn: NecrotizingDeath. I'll trade if I have something you want. Symbol of Avarice perhaps?

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Use it for the utility of the item discovery. Other than that, crystal infusing a rapier is generally better as a backup weapon for a sorcerer, especially since it can parry in offhand, then 2 hand it and riposte with that extra critical bonus.

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For grinding purpose mainly.

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Looks awesome, has the best weapon art of any rapier, sadly it has***** damage. Still fun sometimes.

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Im usin it for the black knight greatsword and the staff that u need to give to pickle pee for solaire's stuff so im not gonna bother upgrading it instead im gonna hornet ring the***** out of EVERYTHING!!

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Hate or not, it's useful anyway as a farming tool so pretty much any class would want it for farming rare items.

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meh so much hate for this weapon. pvping between 60 and 125 I've had my best percentage with this. In case you didn't know, lock off and track the other two weapon or thrust with your camera. alot of people have died confused at the hands of me doing that.

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A crystal Estoc outdoes the damage of this joke. The Sword of Searching was practically a godsend compared to this piece of utter trash. Useless, useless, and even more redundantly useless. Just another piece in the puzzle that shows why Dark Souls 3 is a cacophony of poor choices in design and gameplay.

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My item discovery stat is 110
When I go to equip this weapon in the active weapon slot it shows my item discovery stat will be 110.
After equipping the weapon my item discovery stat is 110.
Anyone else have this bug?
Playing on PS4 current version as of 05/01/18

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Anyone done farming with these and have 1 or 2 crystal rapiers that they don't need anymore? I need them to farm Human Dregs and Proof of Concords. I'm in NG and accidentally used my Sage soul for the sorcery. I'd like to farm all covenant items before NG+. Please end my suffering! PSN: AdrianTheDork505

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This can be used for parrying in your offhand, so you get a tool that boosts item discovery and parries attacks.

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I hate when a boss-tier weapon is reduced to a mere trinket you carry purely due to Miyazaki's*****s-n-giggles.

Since this weapon can be swung horizontally by the boss, why not let the players do the same with it? And if it has Crystals on the blade, that only makes the poor physical damage inexcusable along with the poor magic damage this weapon gets. The R1s can poke, but let the R2s be swings for Slash damage if nothing else.

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An active slot means I'd have to hold it to get the stat gain, correct? I'm farming Swordgrass at so 196, and it's a pain.

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is this weapon still bad or did it get an update

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Imgine if its weapon art was that horizontal swipe that the actual boss does with it. Kinda like a shorter version of the pontiff knight curved sword's weapon art, but maybe a bit faster to compensate. Its a shame that a cool looking weapon like this is only being used for farming items.

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288 magic damage and 126 physical damage at 60/40 dex/int.
Compared to a Sharp Rapier that can reach 350 AR (40 dex) before even being buffed, this thing is useless for attacking enemies.

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Wow ***** you stat requirements says my sorceress - I'm playing around with CMW vs my +10 Crystal Dagger on the Lothric Knights at the castle bonfire before going onto NG+ (farming spec - 99 luck, 70 int, no str or dex) and this thing at +4 does comparable damage to CMW-buffed +9 Raw Rapier. 700ish vs 800ish back stab, 435 vs 451 charged r2, and nearly the same damage on Stance attacks. Obviously the Rapier is the stronger one in each of these instances but holy *****ing*****. Just the int scaling alone on this early game weapon *with stat penalty on the physical* is enough to nearly match an endgame sorcery cast from an endgame staff? And yeah it's fkn ridiculous, like 364 crystal sage AR vs about 540+ buffed raw rapier AR

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I planned a build that uses this weapon in offhand to parry. Turns out it can't. Learn the weapons before making harsh decisions, my friends

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Anyone have an extra one of these that they'd be willing to trade me for? Farming covenant items is driving me insane and I only need to farm Silver Knights and Deacons, but it's taking me years!!! PSN: AdrianTheDork505

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I transposed the soul into the rapier, but it wasn't in my inventory!? Is there something I'm missing?

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too many points for a sorferer, i stick with longsword

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It is a pity it doesn't have a better critical, 130 would have be perfect. Only thing I don't like about this weapon is it doesn't allow "kicking." Because of this it isn't a good weapon to use against shield barring foes.

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The 13 strength requirement doesn't make sense and is too high.

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It has been patched. It only works if equipped in main weapon slot (right hand). Does not work off-hand.

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Can it parry in left hand or only regular rapier do that?

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ear farmer's rapier

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What's better? The weapon or the magic?

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Can i has buff pls ?

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27/40/60 Crystal Sage's Rapier+52 Handed AR PHY 100+36 MAG 150+133

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does the item discovery count when i pick up from the body or the moment i kill the monster?Cause my magic damage is bad as my character is too stupid...-_-

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I don't have the dex requirements for this, but I have it equipped and my Item Discovery still only has the base value. Something I'm missing?

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Which one is powerful for boost magic damage now? Crystal Sage's Rapier or Scholar's Candlestick.

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Does it parry in the left hand?

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Everyone talks about its item discovery bonus but how viable is it in combat when upgraded? I only have 20 in Dex but I have 50 in Intelligence.and Strenght.

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Does the Item Discovery increase as you reinforce it?

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hmmm, interesting.....

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Does the item discovery stack with consumable's and equipment?

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Pissed I took the spell you get instead of the rapier. Kill me please

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If you're going to use it, you'll want to be either a pyromancy or sorcery build with heavy INT investment. Throw on the Magic Clutch and Leo rings, and you'll actually put out some impressive damage. Probably the most impressive thing is that you'll have 100% i-frames vs people whining about the estoc. No one ever talks about it, and I haven't received a single message about using it.

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do you get another 50 item disc if you're holding 2?

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***** weapon.

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or does it also work when in inventory?

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Upgraded weapon to +5, it showing +100 item discovery before equip.After equipped it, item discovery only +50.

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Crystal Sage's Rapier seems to have the highest range among other rapiers. Especially R2 attack. Damage is not that bad, for a rapier. Until you meet magic defense. For that cases raw Estoc is good option.

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As a pure mage, you'll get more damage out of a RAW weapon with MW/GMW/CMW. Having this around for when you're low on FP and near the next bonfire, not a bad call. Getting Simple Enchants, however, makes this farm-only status.

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I went for an assassin on my second playthrough so my attunement, intelligence, and dex were fairly high. I'm curious if its damage scales with your magic stats but haven't checked. I think it would be rad if you could stack the damage of the blade with magic weapon, but since you can't use sorceries on it, it kind of makes the weapon pretty useless, especially vs enemies who have high magic defense.

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Can I have it equipped but never actually hit the enemy with it, to get the bonus?

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Tried it out, wasn't up to satisfaction.Stuck with my choas infuse black blade.Would be nice if it was pure magic damage over splite.

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The descirption also talks about a buff to magic dmg, any idea how high this is?

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If I get one and a claymore, put the rapier in my left hand and 2H the claymore so I can stunlock silver knights then will I still get the item discovery?

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You get 50 for each one, for a total of 100. So the maximum drop rate is 599

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this rapier looks so ***** good! I love the thinness with the small crystals formed on its blade, its such a shame I am a dex build and I can't use it because it scales with int

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Does anyone know a better sword than this for thursting and int scaling?

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Pointless to mention, how good Estoc is. This one is just Estoc for pure INT builds. It is slightly weaker (only slightly) then quality build Estoc, simple because it can be buffed with magic. Still difference not that noticable outside the tryhard PvP. Probably the best melee option for sorcerers out there with infused dark sword.

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The critical bonus on this seems to be more in line with the other rapier at 110 instead of the listed 100. Anyone else notice this?

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I can confirm its only 50 for me.

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Okay, might just be me, but for some odd reason this weapon only deals physical damage, which is beyond miniscule. Does anyone know a fix for this wierd bugg?

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bug or something?

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Just a question incase anyone knows. If I'm using this, do I have to use it the whole fight or just once to get the drop rates. Or do I just have to kill it with it to get the increase (final blow). If anyone knows and can answer would be much appreciated.

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Anyone other than me disappointed that this weapon comes out of the box with native magic damage and INT scaling, but can't be infused with magic?

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If I hold this in my left hand with something else in my right, will L2 parry?

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I think this weapon has 2.5 weight, not 0.

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Can it be infused? Thinking of hollow upgrade for this for extra item discovery.

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I was hoping this was more like Velka's rapier. I loved that weapon and was hoping to see its move set return as another magic rapier.

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https://youtu.be/o0lEz8RdrO0?list=PL9iJZAueowBROw4lW8uIDa5XQibM_1hXY

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It's quite a nice weapon. Had a damage cap of 457 on my Sorc full int build using this weapon, he only had enough str/dex to wield it. For a 1handed weapon, I approve of the damage. The only downside is you cannot use fire paper/lightning paper etc on it due to it being pre-imbued with magic.

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Only it's not so large. Still item-discovery-boosting weapons I approve of. If thrusting swords are half as awesome as they were in Dark Souls 2 then this will be a must-go for me.

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