Grand Archives Key | Dark Souls 3 Wiki

Forgot this existed only realized after I killed Dancer and Dragonslayer Armour at SL35, seething and coping rn

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Damn, i wanna just straight up kill lothric as the first lord of cinder in ng+, oh well

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TDIL on ng++ about having to kill the other lords first. Went straight to dancer from vordt

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This key really exemplifies the major problem I have with dark souls 3. Don’t get me wrong it’s still a good game but it’s also more linear than either of the first two games. In dark souls one you had the option to go to whichever bell you wanted first. Then you would have to go through a fairly linear part before once again being able to go down whatever path you wanted. In Dark souls 2 you could pretty much go down whatever path you wanted from the start as long as you knew what you were doing. In Dark souls 3 the only choices you get in the main story is wether you fight Yhorm or Aldrich first and wether or not you go to Lothric castle early. Even then the game discourages you from going to lothric castle early by putting an endgame boss in front of it. Even if you fight through lothric castle and beat the dragon slayer armor all you get is a dead end. Wouldn’t it be much better if you could just go into the archives early and kill the twin princes early then move on to the other lords. But no, instead the have to do whichever story path you choose in this one specific way.

(Note): I still enjoy dark souls 3 I just wish it gave you more freedom

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If the corpse doesn't appear for you like it didn't for me, then warp to aldrich boss room. I always go AW, then yhorm then aldrich and it always works. However, this playthrough i killed yhorm last and it did not trigger the cutscene and i had to kill Emma to even trigger the Dancer fight. Warp to aldrich and the cutscene will trigger.

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For those who can't find this key despite beating 3 Lords of Cinder:

Go back to the bonfire of the last Lord you killed, it will trigger a cutscene and transport you to the Dancer area, even if Emma and the Dancer are already dead (I played on NG+1 and went for the Dancer first so Emma wouldn't teleport me in later when I'm full of souls, so this could be the problem).

I warped to the Grand Archives and sure enough, Gotthard's corpse is there with the key and his swords.

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In case you thought Dark souls 3 wasn't linear enough

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I just killed Ludleth in hopes I could cheat the system. Does Not Work..

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You just need AW and Yhorm. You don't need aldritch. I always leave aldritch for last and always get let in. This time I skip yhorm til last, not allowed. So you don't need 3. Update please

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If it doesn’t show up go back to the last lord of cinder you killed...apparently you have to trigger to cutscene

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No, you still need to kill Aldrich.

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I killed abyss watchers, yhorm and pontiff. Does that not meet the requirements?

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There's a corpse lying next to the grand archives bonfire with a key on it. It should be there.

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The key or the body didn’t show up when I got to the gate. Was I supposed to do something first before I beat the dragon slayer?

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Great. First playthrough Orbeck took off so i went ng+ so I can get crystal magic AND be invaded again at pontiffs. Now I'll need to be in Ng+2 just for pontiffs because of this wack lil ring, what a drag. They should have made you unable to enter the prince fight early, NOT the archive

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urgh that's annoying, i was trying to get early crystal magic on my twink, took forever to kill dragon armor, just to get screwed over by this little key.

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If you're doing siegward side quest, u MUST talk to him after defeating yohorm

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Damnit now I can't keep Aldrich alive to be invaded

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guys all are u need grand archives key just do it go to anor londo then go defeat aldrich,devouror of gods u will teleport to where the lady u killed she was sitting in the chair go up by ladder find (contraption does not move)lift now activated go through that lift directly u will go to the grand archives their grand archives key popping on the floor by dead soldier.then ................. go kill .........

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I didn't see a corpse outside the grand archives wtf????

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv3rldxLaQ4

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You must teleport to aldrich and walk around,optional teleport to yorm etc

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Hey i have a friend that killer the 3 lords of cinder and the body os notebooks there

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Who are the three lords of cinder and where do i find them

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I'm pretty sure the corpse outside is not Black Hand Gotthard. He wields the Gotthard Twinswords (named after him), while the corpse clearly is equipped with two katanas. I speculate that this is the third Black Hand, possible killed by Gotthard when he decided to defect and rather help the unkindled against the Abyss Watchers and Pontyff. Perhaps he left his sword behind in the flight, as in the encounters he is summoned for he usually only uses one sword.

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3 lords of cinder. ludleth doesnt count does he? i wanna leave alritch alive so the pontiff arena stays lively

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Black Hand Gotthard is blinking! Creepy...

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Not like part two cause on their they are really good

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And here i was thinking i could open all areas of the game without defeating some area bosses, so that i could summon a phantom friend and use the dried finger and get lots of attention from invaders for epic 2vs2 messed up fights. (nope not intending to be a gank squad, just huge messed up fights)

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Wow I made it all the way to the Grand Archives thinking I could kill Lothric before either of the other two lords and the key wasnt there. This game really IS railroading you. Sad.

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Who are the three boss u have to kill to get the grand achieve key

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We're do I find it

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Why no key for archive anyone help

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no one cares about your problems

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did what you guys say but still no key ***** you. they are all on there thrones chilling but now I cant do ***** someone help ... #hoe

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The corpse that was supposedly to be outside the door, is NOT there and I'm now stuck just sitting here at the door, without any way of getting through. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXD

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I have killed 3 Lords of Cinder, however i died as Aldrich did, and i didn't get any cut scene or anything, am i missing something to make it appear? or have i broke my game??

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You can access Lothric area if you defeat the dancer , but the key to open the grand archives wont appear until you defeat Lords of Cinders first , so yeah , u cant defeat Lothric brothers early :(

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Well this sucks. Here I am having defeated both the Dancer and the Dragonslayer Armour before any Lords of Cinder, thinking I could beat Lothric to get Lorians set early, and they deliberately don't let you? That's kind of disappointing.

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Is what you are

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Hello my friend. I defeated the Dragonslayer Armor and advanced to the Great Archives, but the body with the double swords and the Grand Archives Key did not appear to me. Would you help me?

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On my ng++ game the key did not appear after killing the giant boss and putting alll three cinders on the thrones. IS the key somewhere else after ng++?

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Why do they not let you go here before beating 3 lords of cinder? Makes no sense, and the game would be way more open if they did. Stupid.

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So, I just spent quite a substantial amount of time killing the Dragonslayer Armour on a level 30 character with only a raw Astora Straight Sword in order to get Onikiri and Ubadachi early only to discover I can't enter the Grand Archives without defeating 3 Lord of Cinder.Sad Face.

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this key will only spawn AFTER you defeat the 3 lords of cinder.

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