Izalith Staff | Dark Souls 3 Wiki

The description is wrong. The spell buff stat and the extra damage on dark sorceries are independant of each other. I have compared it with another staff that gave me the same spell buff, regular spells do the same damage on both, dark sorceries do even more damage. The spellbuff stat also scales with both int and faith, so yes, increasing faith WILL increase the damage of your sorceries with this weapon. At +5, with 35/30 int/faith, it has roughly 170 spellbuff, roughly the same as a +3 heretic staff at 40 int. Not worth the investment for pure int builds but good if you want to use dark sorcery or mix-up some pyromancy.

Submit

They had the chance to make this a dual sorcery/pyromancy catalyst with a weaker spellbuff and leave the dark sorceries to the murky longstaff, but nah. We aren't allowed to have nice things.

Submit

So nobody agrees with a staff, meant for fire witches and intended for fire magic, being able to use pyromancies... But then we're totally okay with clerics and deacons becoming heretic wizards and using fire spells with their candlesticks? And we just accept that a chime is capable of using sorceries because some wax-head bookworms crystallized it?


I call utter bullsht.

Submit

Did a dark sorcery/pyromancy catalyst only run, I can confirm banging a dragon with a stick does more damage than a mass of dark magic.

Submit

wish you could cast pyromancies with this staff, maybe making sorceries in general a lot weaker as a draw back of being able to cast pyromancies. Kinda like how that one hexer in dark souls 2 could cast pyromancies with his staff

Submit

Hmm... Isn't the Profaned Flame entirely dependent upon intelligence? And Andre also remarks that it carries signs of the Abyss... I know Profaned Flame is a pyromancy itself, but what if it was the remnant of the lost fire sorcery from before the Chaos Flame went out of control, and Sulyvahn merely rediscovered it?

The Profaned Flame was said to be born from the sky, as well, and the intro to DS1 seems to show the Witch of Izalith and her daughters summoning fire from the sky with their staves...

Submit

How good would this be for a zullie cosplay? I already have an alva cosplay.

Submit

Witch of Izalith = Velka Goddess of Sin

Submit

The reason this isn't a dual Pyromancy/Sorcery catalyst is because it'd be absurdly powerful. Imagine whipping a Vestiges off 270 spellbuff compared to basic pyromancy flame's 221 at 60/60. Better yet, a Black Fire Orb or Black Flame with the additional Dark spell scaling (assuming they'd fix the Combustion type spells to not be at the end of the staff for broken range, likely with a unique animation).

If it were a dual-casting catalyst, you could use Power Within and Magic Weapon buff your weapon with the same catalyst, while also being able to pop out fireball-type pyromancies on coked up spellbuff, AND use Affinity/HSM for more zoning and roll pressure, without needing to swap between casting tools.

Realistically speaking, however, the spellbuff would be dented to hell if they did make this a dual caster tool. It'd be in the same boat as the White Hair Talisman or the Crystal Chime; able to do both, but not nearly the best for either. I'm just glad we don't live in that timeline lol

Submit

I know I'm a bit late, but fire sorceries and pyromancy are two different things. That is why the staff cant cast pyromancies.

Submit

270 spellbuff is huge

Submit

I messed around with pyromancies in this staff via bow glitch for some time. Way stronger than pyro flame imo. Gcfo with izalith staff outdamages cbv with pyro flame, not taking lava pool into account here.

Submit

What does not meeting the STR requirement do? Does it effect casting, or just melee attack?

Submit

I swear I use this staff for hitting things more often than actually casting spells

Submit

I've seen and heard people say that this staff can cast miracles, is this true?

Submit

this staff is too fckin long

Submit

Anorexic B O N K

Submit

pretty good wacking stick

Submit

why dosen't this get an A in faith like the dark miracle catalysts?

Submit

it says the softcap is 45 for both faith and int but int has C scailing. does that just mean int contributes more damage untill it softcaps, in which case faith contributes more or are the scalings not working right?

Submit

wish this was a dual pyro/sorc catalyst. The faith scaling is quite nice for a pyro who wants to dabble in sorcery tho.

Submit

chant seems to reduce pyromancy damage. needs more testing.

Submit

highest potential physical AR of all staves.

Submit

That it buffs dark sorceries isn't too unusual. Quelana gifted the use of fire to humanity and taught the very first pyromancers, who then took pyromancy off into their own unique direction. A resonance between an artifact of Izalith and the Dark Soul makes sense in that context.

Submit

Use this as melee weapon. Hit like a truck

Submit

I think it would have been cool if the weapon art gave you a stance where you could choose to send out a bolt of fire that acts like a soul arrow with R1, or could weave a small firestorm with R2. The reason could be that you are channeling a small amount of the will of it's previous owner, to a less grand affect. Odd idea, but I think it would allow for a more traditional type of mage, without need to equip pyromancy flames/spells/rings that clog up your other personal affects you would clearly use more often... and feel lore friendly. (just my opinion)

Submit

I have a feeling they didn't make the a pyro casting catalyst because what would they animation's look like. I mean you have this staff in your hand then throw a ball of fire from your palm like a baseball while holding this thing? It would look wonky as hell plus we already have the pyromancy flame itself.

Submit

This is not a catalist , this is a stick used to make people***** themselves when you wack thier @$$ with 300 damage on melee

Submit

Buff this with murky longstaff and cast great soul dregs to turn nameless king into lifeless king.

Submit

It would really be awesome if this weapon could cast Sorceries AND Pyromancies. It would make sense, according to the lore.

Submit

Can anyone explain and help me make sense of this? My Izalith Staff +3 @ 30/30 int/fth has a spell buff of 148 and deals 261 damage vs the grave wardens outside of firelink shrine using the spell Great Deep Soul. Now with 35/25 int/fth (same 60 total points, but more int, less fth) the staff gets a higher spell buff of 153, which is understandable. But against the same enemies, it deals 153 damage, which is less than when it had a lower spell buff @ 30/30. I tested this many times and the results were always consistent.

Submit

There needs to be an update so this can cast Pyromancies The lore does not forbid it, so why does the game forbid it? Trump's campaign makes more sense than this bullshit

Submit

I wonder if the lower spell buff compared to the logan staff at 60 int is a game changer or just not as noticeable cause I like the idea of being able to get dark sorcery damage up, there's some good ones like great soul dregs and great deep soul.

Submit

what do they mean by "As a matter of fact, this staff can be used as a decent weapon to get rid of weak ennemies, due to high base physical damage (for a staff) and the very low stamina consumption for each strike, in spite of the lack of any combo. This is essentially meant to avoid wasting precious FP and Ashen Estus Flasks on weaker enemies." can you hit people with staves?

Submit

If you're dumb enough to try and play a pure dark build like I did, do not underestimate the importance of this staff. Tested Deep Soul on the lava slimes in Demon Ruins: Heretic Staff +2 (SB 130) = 72 damage, Izalith Staff +1 (SB 126) = 125 damage with INT30 and FTH14. That's a huge difference in the early-ish stages of a build like this.

Submit

For those Pyromancers who also want to be a mage

Submit

"Dark sorceries cast with this staff will scale with both Intelligence and Faith. Dark sorceries cast with any other staff will scale only with Intelligence up to 60, and will only deal marginally less damage." Thank you! Jesus, I've spent so long trying to find how dark magic works and after, like, a week, I have some awnser.






How long until it turns out to be a prank?

Submit

Got a 40/40 INT/FTH build. I intend to use Dark Edge, Soul Greatsword, Great Heavy Soul Arrow and Great Soul Dregs.
Should I use this for max efficiency, range and damage output?
If not, which staff would work well?

Submit

While this staff has a massive flash sword range it also has a large blind spot near the user that will only hit whit the staff for a massive ~3 damage

Submit

Ah, the "My Pyro Got Bored" staff. Great fun with Dark Edge and Affinity!

Submit

From software we need a Pyro/Sorcery item please; Izalith Staff, Immolation Tinder, or one of the Candlesticks should definitely be a pyro/sorcery item. Or give us the wand back. This game ain't complete without one.

Submit

For 60 in INT and Faith the damage is much better with this stuff than with court staff. I tested it on red-eyed Lothric Knight at NG+7. I had bellowing dragoncrest ring and dark clutch ring and used Great Soul Dregs. The damage for Court Staff was 696, for Izalith Staff - 832.

Submit

really hope from will rework izalith staff into pyro/sorc catalyst :/

Submit

From my experiment::: Great Deep Soul on 45Int/45Faith which is optimal you get 328 dmg with this staff. At 60Int/10Faith you get ~270dmg a pretty big reduction. Faith scales to 30 super efficiently due to the C scaling. I use 50Int/30Fath to get about ~310dmg which is very stat efficient for this Staff. After 30 Faith you get reduced returns per 5 levels vs INT. You cast regular sorceries with a ~40dmg penalty compared to other staffs at the same level of INT. 45Int/30Faith is more efficient, but I like to cast regular sorceries also. Hope this helps.

Submit

Seriously can't believe this still isn't the hybrid catalyst for Pyromancy and Sorcery, it's bloody pefect. We have catalysts for other hybrids, Crystal Chime and White Hair Talisman are for Sorcery and Miracles and Pyromancy and Miracles so why not Pyromancy and Sorcery ffs?!?!?

Submit

So If I were to only go 40/40 Faith Int, would it just be better to go 60 int with a different staff? For Dark sorceries

Submit

it seems to me that the murky longstaff buffed with its weapon art makes spells stronger than this staff buffed with its WA. exactly like the crystal staff and logan's staff behave for sorcery. unbuffed izalith and logan's staff are stronger though.

Submit

Still can't wrap my mind around why this staff buffs Dark spells. The Witch of Izalith wasn't even remotely associated with the Dark. Feels like this should be the Sorcery/Pyro hybrid catalyst, like how the White Hair Talisman is Pyro/Miracle and Crystal Chime is Sorcery/Miracle.

Submit

How much weaker is this for normal sorceries?
I use farron flashsword a lot and while crystal sages staff has decent range, heretics stuff has more range, though less damage.
This one has the most range, but it's even weaker, right?

Submit

Hey I was wondering if anyone could trade me this using password match making? I just need an unimproved version of it on a low level build for an idea I saw! Open to trade requests with my normal character! Should be able to accommodate most requests!

Submit

If I have 60 int and 10 faith and I am casting dark sorceries, will I still get high damage or should I switch to another staff for greater damage?

Submit

i love beating the***** out of enemys with it look at that ar

Submit

Yeah, wasted my mats leveling it up to level 5 thinking it would be an obvious alternative to boost my Dark Pyro's, lesson to all, read and read well.

Submit

Another thing. From my testing the Izalith Staff gets no Dark spell buff (10%) from the Crown of Dusk. It could use it, but, on the other hand, the Crown of Dusk can deprive one of some much needed defense(as it has virtually none against physical dmg, actually does OK against most elemental dmg, and gets a negative 30 defense against magic). Just saying.

Submit

Also...The Izalith Staff actually has a bit of staff-only damage. Fully upgraded, it hits (just hits) at almost 400 AR (unlike the other staffs---2nd to the Izalith is the Man-Grubs Staff at 200 AR). This might seem totally insignificant bc one gets this staff for Dark Sorceries, but one of those few sorceries---Dark Edge, if one is close enough to their target, includes that extra 400 AR in its damage. So at 99 INT 99 FTH, with the appropriate rings on, Dark Edge, which has some good tracking for a sorcery, hits those scrubs down in the Cemetery of Ash for 1400 damage. So, not bad for an attack that is quicker than a Great Axe or Great Hammer, if you have the stats to fully pimp the Dark Magic out. Cheers!

Submit

For Dark Miracles...
Utilizing this, both Dragon rings that boost sorcery, the dark clutch ring, the red tearstone ring, and the Morion Blade in my off hand, each Great Deep Soul cast deals 600-900 damage based on resistances. While in ordinary conditions using spells so weak would be blasphemy, dark sorceries are known for excellent tracking and being difficult to recover from if you aren't good at dodging. For a mere 9 FP, I can take out half of someone's health with a HIGHLY tracking Great Deep Soul, and if Affinity hits on top of it, the person is dead without ever getting near me.

Submit

BEST LV10 invading melee weapon ever!

Submit

Will the sorceries I cast be weaker or consume more stamina if I don't have 12 strength?

Submit

I agree with you 100%, but as lore would dictate, the witches of Izalith became corrupt due to the chaos and were swallowed. So, maybe the staff, relevant to the nature of things, is also corrupt. So it has done a complete 180, remembering only the darkness. *gag*

Submit

Some enemies seem to be resistant to this staff. I did about a 1/3 damage to the blue cathedral knights with GSA, while my storytellers staff (only 2 higher spellbuff) did full damage. Same with outrider knight and lothric dragons. Is this a bug maybe?

Submit

This staff was infused with the power of fire. What happens to a fire that fades? correct, it gets dark.Maybe helpful stuff for u?

Submit

Just wanting someone to figure out how to word this. I prefer my edits to be strictly data.Just wanted to point out that the "Staff of Izalith" does not improve the damage of any of the spells learned from the "Tome of Izalith." Quite odd, in my opinion.

Submit

So I just thought that this staff should be able to cast both sorcery and pyromancy. And it should still boost dark spells. Like that would almost kinda maybe make dark builds viable. Dark miracles are just useless in PvP, so a staff that could cast the few useful dark sorceries and pyromancies with a nice small boost could work. And as it is called Izalith staff, it makes no sense for it to not cast pyromancy. In PvE it would also be nice as you could use the dark sorcery and pyromancy more effectively. Now I just see no point in investing all the levels and titanite just to cast a few less powerful spells

Submit

Does the page list the spellbuff amount of the + enhancements or is there a calculation I am missing somewhere?

Submit

izalith staff should be able to cast pyromancy. or at least they should have added "fire sorceries".

Submit

That the the Izalith Staff, created by the mother of all pyromancies and her daughters, even clearly specified as "Flame Witches" in the description... Is unable to cast any kind of pyromancy ? Not even a simple fire ball ?

Submit

changed build for this just becuz of look

Submit

Do I need to meet the strength requirement to get the full amount of magic damage from this weapon?I noticed my pyro glove has a higher spell buff than this +5 staff.

Submit

Softcap is most certainly not 45-45

Submit

It looks like with this staff specifically, Steady Chant actually causes Dark magic to deal less damage.

Submit

fun to run around in a loincloth and hit people with it

Submit

Just picked up the Izalith Staff. The initial spell buff value is actually 60, not 130 as shows on the Staves page

Submit

I simply love the look and feel of this staff not to mention how awesome it feels to walk around with something that's been around since the dawn of the Age of Fire. They should have made this the most powerful catalyst, though I suppose it already is for Dark Sorcery. I just don't get the connection to the dark though. As far as we know the Witches never tempered with dark magics especially since that was the purview of the Dark Soul.In any case, awesome staff! Just wish there were more dark spells to make use of it though...DLC maybe...

Submit

With 60 int and 35 fth, this staff +5 is only 3 points behind my court sorcerer staff +5 in regards to the spell buff attribute. However, that number might be only applicable to dark sorceries as regular sorceries do considerable less damage than the Court Sorcerer's staff. This should be mentioned somewhere.This staff DOES outdo the court sorcerer's staff in regards to dark sorcery.

Submit

The spell buff on this staff changes depending on your intelligence and faith stats. When you only qualify for this staff with intelligence or faith and not the other it will report a spell buff of 60 (base). However, if you qualify to use this staff with both int and faith the spell buff will be at 120 (base).

Submit

hmm... perhaps pestilent mercury could be good with this staff?

Submit

Was hoping it'd be a sorcery/pyromancy catalyst. But I guess a hexing staff that doesn't double FP cost is nice.

Submit

If you want to use Deep Soul, Great Deep Soul, Pestilent Mercury, Affinity, and Dark Edge, this is the staff to use.

Submit