Lightning Blade | Dark Souls 3 Wiki

it's so lame that they replaced the almighty sunlight blade, the miracle of gwyn's firstborn, with this, a cheap knockoff that is ambitious about who originaly used it, considering that both ornstein and the dragonslayer armor's wearer were from the age of lords. At least i guess we can still use the original sunlight blade on the dragonslayer swordspear when we use it's weapon art.

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So I might be doing something wrong or I dont see something but what is really the point of spell weapon buffs while there are resins and infusions.
Ive been testing the dmg on 20/20/80 str/dex/fth character and the diff between dmg while comparing this spell and lightning infusion are huge.
The lightning infused lothric knight spear did about 1k dmg while the same weapon with raw infusion and lightning blade did like 500dmg if recall correctly.
I was checking it by backstabing lothric knight right next to the first bonfire in lothric castle location.
As far as i know, its still better to use lightning infusion than lightning blade with for example 20/40/40 str dex fth stats as the dmg will be higher.
The only downside i can think of is not being able to change the dmg type while the infusion is put on.
Resins dmg is obvsly the lowest one but those are a really good thing for non int/fth investing builds.
Am i missing something?
Cuz as much as I'd like to, the weapon buff spells really dont seem worth spell slot except the case when you need that specific dmg type that is not provided by your weapons infusion.

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Kinda weird how magic weapon and carthus flame sword have really low requirements and this needs 30 faith

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It's my first time playing DS3, does it work in Hollowslayer Grestsword?

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Does this work like spells in DS2, where it adds a flat amount of elemental damage AND increases pre-existing elemental damage on the weapon? Or does it just add a flat amount based on spell buff? If it works like DS2, that would mean this would be extremely effective on weapons that already have innate lightning damage, but if not, then it would just add the same amount of elemental damage regardlessof weapon.

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Use this on a heavy, sharp, or refined lothric knight greatsword, put on the lightning clutch ring, and experience the glory of lightning damage

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Why is this good on weapons that already have lightning damage?
Is there some hidden modifier for those weapons?

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I wonder what would happen if you were to cast this one like A metal street pole/lamp, and you dared some kid to lick it, like they did in the winter

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As someone interested in playing around with weapon buffs who wasn't sure whether I'm supposed to use daggers or something else to get the best damage out of them (due to the somewhat clunkily-written note added to most of the buff spells about some weapons having multipliers), I decided to do a bit of science to figure out the numbers.

All tests were performed against the Firekeeper, using the first one handed attacks of the categories (different parts of combos might have different modifiers, but I couldn't be bothered to test that out :P). Stats and talisman used were obviously kept the same between tests.

The main test was performed with the Raw Dagger and the Raw Broken Straight Sword. Both have the same AR of 86, supposedly have the same motion values on their attacks, and each represent a different weapon class (Daggers and Straight Swords respectively).

Single Light Attack Damage (unbuffed):
Dagger - 38
Broken Straight Sword - 37

Then, Single Light Attack Damage (Lightning Blade buffed):
Dagger - 91 (+53 from the buff)
Broken Straight Sword - 120 (+83 from the buff)

Depending on whether or not you're supposed to compare the ultimate damage or just the damage yielded from the buff, that means that daggers either only gain 75% (counting ultimate damage) or ~65% (counting only the buff damage) of a buff's bonus damage. Variation could be down to just small numbers +/ weird percentages in play.

For heavy attacks (both charged and uncharged), the damages from both weapons were exactly the same (ignoring the tiny variation they have), suggesting that the buff strength isn't lowered for such attacks, just the light ones.

Bonus Tests:
Two-Handed Dagger - Lights still have the reduced buff damage.
Caestus - Single light has full buff damage added to it. 2-Handing doesn't change that.
Drang Hammer - Single light has full buff damage added to it. 2-Handing doesn't change that.

TL;DR (with some assumptions):
- Dagger light attacks only get ~65% or 75% (not sure which is right) of weapon buff damage. Heavy attacks get 100%.
- Fists get 100% weapon buff damage.
- Assuming some notes about 1H Caestus being only ~100ms slower than daggers, and daggers only get 75% weapon buff damage, then you get more DPS from the buff damage if you use the Caestus 1 handed over using a dagger.

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what about rings? how miracle boosting rings works with this one?

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- Damage is applied each time the enemy is hit with the weapon, regardless of the damage of the attack performed.
What does this mean?

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For anyone doing an SL60 build, co-op or invasion, the most efficient way to cast this is 30 Faith with the Cleric's Sacred Chime. Assuming you're at +6, your spellbuff is 140, which translates to a 133 damage bonus. Since 30 is your absolute minimum, the CSC is the best you can get for SL60.

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put this on caestus and you have poor mans chidori

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Anyone know which talisman is best for going to the base faith requirements for this buff? Looking to put this as well as force on a str build and trying to maximize damage as much as possible.

Basically which talisman has the best spellbuff at 30 faith.

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if you use this with sellswords i hate you, i'm not saying this miracle is bad, nor faith/dex builds are, i just hate you if you do

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I've heard that there is a hard cap at 60 fth. So if i'm using Yorshkas Chime + 10 with 99 Faith and apply the Lighting blade onto my weapon, does it still give me the same amout of dmg when i'm using it with 60 faith ?

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in DS1 to get this you had to kill the GOD of the dark moon in ANOR LONDO, CITY OF THE GODS, TO GET THIS, in this game however, "oh y'know, you just find it on a corpse in the a**hole of lothric, irithyll dungeon, y'know"

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Adds lightning damage equal to (Spellbuff * 0.95) What is spellbuff?

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Can someone please gift ir yo me (I accidentally sold it) I play on xbox

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"Makes sunlight blade cry"

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I am running a faith and dex build and want to use this spell for bosses in PvE but I can’t seem to be able to use this spell even though I have 30 Faith and a Talisman.

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Rose of Ariandel Spell Buff - 189 x .95(buff damage) = 179.55 x (1.0 + 0.25 (weapon art boost) + 0.20 (ring of the suns first born) + 0.12 (mornes ring) + 0.08 (lightning or magic clutch ring PVP)) = 292.5 damage added on via Lightning/Dark Moon Blade. Lightning Infused Splitleaf +10 = 607 damage (40 str, 40 dex, 40 faith) vs Sharp Infused Splitleaf +10 = 515 damage + 293 = 808 damage.

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If I sold it by accident can I get it again in ng+?

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Do spell buffs work on all miracles?

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Look how they massacred my boy

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basically the only used buff in invasion whether its in high wall of lothric or after sulyvahn’s boss fight , way too overused even if its the best buff , i personally prefer flaming cathus arc , 10int 10 faith with a flaming blade that looks cool

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Is it affected by mirriacle rings?

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ridiculously op

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Why?..... WHY?... WHY ISN'T IT NAMED SUNLIGHT BLADE?

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I absolutely Love this spell buff!

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What is the faith hard cap for this spell?

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I know it may sound stupid since there are VFX to tell, but how long is the duration of the buff?

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903 two-handed damage when using this with Heavy Greatsword+10, 66 str, 30 faith.

I was playing sorcerer build, but couldn't beat magic bosses on NG+2, so I went to Rosaria, put everything in Str and 30 in Faith just to be able to use this buff, and it was worth it! Every two-handed hit, 903!

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There needs to be further addition to the above information. As of 1.15, it will gain the benefit of your Intelligence stat if you are using catalysts such as Catha's Chime or Sunless Talisman, even though this is not a Dark Miracle.

Also, to answer an earlier question, it will gain extra damage from a Lightning Clutch ring. It does not gain any benefit from Miracle-boosting rings, or other magic or miracle-boosting items like the Crown of Dusk.

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Notes say that LB cannot be used on weapons that are already infused with Crystal, Simple, and Blessed.

I suppose they should add that it can't be used on Lightning weapons either, because it is not applying to my Lightning Saint Bident unless I'm severely missing something.

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CHIDORI !

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if the damage is fixed regardless of the weapon, than am i righ in assuming that this(and pretty much all the other buffs, ut these ones specifically more) are better to be used with fast but very low damage weapons?

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Does Lightning Clutch Ring (Increases lightning attack by 15% and
Increases incoming physical damage by 10%) Ring

increase Lightning Blade ?

Because in the notes of Darkmoon Blade it said that Darkmoon Blade Increased by magic clutch ring.

If yes, can we add it to the notes of Lightning Blade?

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anay afsa

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Needs a better, less wordy and confusing, description of its location. Just say, its halfway up the shortcut elevator that's after the broken dragon statue, must jump off. Detailed walkthroughs that explain where something is by walking you through the entire area are best left to videos, derp derp.

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someone please make petition of renaming this.

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"makes Sunlightblade cry" best weapon 10/10

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I'm at a loss here. As a 40 40 int fth pyro using carthus flame arc with a 207 spell buff matches the wikis formula of adding 188 AR. But using the sunless talisman with a 222 spell buff only adds 155 AR to the same weapon which is slightly less than .70 of the spell buff. Am I missing something? Is the lightning damage not shown well in the window? Why is this supposed to have a larger multiplier base AND Im using a higher spell buff so whats the deal?

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How does it scale with FAI? It says "Adds 0.96 * (Spell Buff) lightning damage", but it does not include faith scaling anywhere!

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Looks like ass compared to the holy sunlight blade from dks1. Look it up right now. It was glorious compared to this weak *****.

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"(excluding blessed)"
What does it mean?

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lol youtuber Sunlight Blade becomes Lightning Blade or Lightning Rod
still the best buff tho. it's grossly incandescent.

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Which of these affect this spell?1. Rings that enhance offensive fth spells2. FTH level3. Spell buff mod of catalyst

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I am doing a paladin build using this one handed with a shield. Would a Lighttning infusion with 40 strength, 10 dex (Just thought I should add this in) And 40 faith be good?

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Apparently, the buff is "equivalent" to darkmoon blade by it's operation, but if darkmoon blade is affected by the magic clutch ring, how about this buff and the lightning clutch one?

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Imo I think it would've been better to name this sunlight blade and use lightning blade as a lightning version of the sacred flame xD (Kakashi is best bring the h8 of there is any)

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I accidentally sold this spell by accident is there any way of getting it back?

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If this works for anyone please tell me which gear ur using because i cant use it and ive tried everything.Thank You

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Did some testing. Lightning Weapon is now 110% of your Spell Buff as of the latest patch.

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This doesn't work on blessed weapons, like the notes claim

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what is better? lightning infusion or this?

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Do the miracle boosting rings buff the damage?

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Im not able to use this miracle even when I have a talisman equipped. (Att 10 Faith 40) . Using a lightning dark sword +10 . What am I doing wrong?

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cannot confirm: the added AR is 96 * (SpellBuff / 100) Testet with : Cleric's Sacred Chime +10 SB+142 (S skaling) calculation seems right. +135 weapon dmgand with : Crystal Chime +1 SB+173 (D skaling) calculation is off. it gives +129 dmg.so i thought it skales with the faith skalingbut than i tried: Crystal Chime +1 SB+124 (A skaling) it gives +117 dmgand with Sunlight Talisman +1 SB+123 (B skaling) it gives +117 dmg too.so it seems it doesnt skale with faith, i have made similiar tests with crystal magic weapon and different staffs too,for now it seems it skales with the upgrade like try which staff or chime has the highest dmg buff at +1 and upgrade it to +10 regardless of the scaling. Would test some more but titan slabs ran out for +10 tests^^All test were made with +30 int/faith. additional info: the Carthus Flame Arc seems always the way to go on a +10 pyro flame, but still needs some testing at higher (50-60?) int/faith.

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Does the added damage scale with how much faith you have?

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Planning on getting up to 30 faith in NG+, how long does this buff last?

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Which talisman gives the best spell boost? Anyone know?

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Am I the only one whos pissed about this spell's name not being Sunlight Blade?

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What the hell is magical modifier? Where can I see it? Are we playing same game??

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What infusions "physical" can these be used on? 'Maybe Raw, etc...???

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The line about buffs on magical infused weapons ruins my life

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Does the lightning clutch ring increase damage?

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Irithyll dungeon, step off the shortcut elevator after the room with the 6 branding iron ladies

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