Morning Star | Dark Souls 3 Wiki

Is the wiki wrong? It says that the Mace is a direct upgrade in damage but it says the Morning Star does more base damage, more +10 damage, and has an A scaling in Strength.

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why is the wiki suggesting the mace is a direct upgrade when this naturally applies bleed and the mace doesnt

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Okay, so having recently tried this on an SL60 +6 Dex invader, I can safely say this is one of my favourite weapons in post-Pontiff. Perseverance on the rafters, hammer rollcatches, and relatively light weight are all shared between Mace and Morning Star. That said, what makes me choose this over the Mace most of the time is the bleed build-up. Sacrificing ~6? AR for bleed is worth it when it continues to pressure your opponent, since that little status bar keeps the psychological pressure going and pushes less confident opponents to make more mistakes or panic. Persevering through some Ultras (with decent armour, of course) and knocking someone into panic rolls builds up bleed, and you can start your rollcatch chain from there if you have the stamina. Actually managing to get the bleed pop is icing, but don't count on it. Use the build-up for its pressure and mind games, and don't be afraid to change weapons if the situation calls for it.

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YOU ARE CLOSER TO THE ULTIMATE WEAPON THAN EVER BEFORE, BUT THIS IS NOT QUITE IT!!!!!
HOHOHOHO IT'SA ME SANTA CLAUSE
IF YOU WANT TO GIT GUD AND GET AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL THE PRESENTS TO CHRISTMAS YOU NEED TO USE THE MACE!!!!!!
I AM SANTA CLAUSE AND I USE THE MACE EVERY DAY!!!! HOHOHO MERRY CHRISTMAS ITS'A ME SANTA CLAUSE USE THE MACE

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works well with the spiked shield

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The Mace's edgy teenage years.

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Your description will mislead people thinking this weapon is worse than Mace. If you didn't know, all weapon that has innate bleed will have physical damage lower than those that didn't have bleed. It is what they called 'balanced'.

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You are already bled

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personally I love this weapon, I use it with refined for a quality build strike weapon, usually with something like DMB or LB when I do fth (I do alot), plus bleed is amazing against many bosses. Only downside is number one it isn't amazing in PVP and pretty niche in PVE, and number two is its fashion souls could have been so much better... Its a great secondary for when you are using a long range spear or something and you need to deal strike tho!

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ah, this homeboy. mace gets better damage later on, for virtually the same weapon. but nothing beats the DEUS VULT feeling you get from this weapon!

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Good alternative to the mace, especially in lower leveled invasions when you can proc bleed easily without investing heavily into luck. I like to use it at the cathedral with the maggot vomiting hollows because I'm a piece of ****.

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very nice weapon, low requirement to use for a strike weapon, i used it on my DEX build after the abbys watcher bornfire because i dont have much str, and its just knock out those strong skeleton, just one strike and they just lay on the ground waiting for you to hit them. Not very high damage but very useful on that area.

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surprisingly reliable

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ive nerver seen this weapon in pvp

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a good early game weapon in dark souls 1 now turned completely UNUSED in dark souls 3 because of how ludicrously late you are able to get it in game that there are already plenty of better weapons to use

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This mace gives A Scaling in Dex with Sharp infusion. Weird.

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this weapon, kirk set, lorians crown and you become the king of thorns

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Does it do piercing or blunt damage, I was wondering if I could combine it with Leo ring?

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is the 62 poison and 65 bleed real? because normal weapons get a 35 in poison.

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Infuse this with dark and it’s a good weapon for dealing with the Dancer.

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Just smashed Patch's face with it after he locked the door on me in firelink shrine.

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Having done a bit of messing about with Mugenmonkey, a bit of info on infusions, as of the last time Mugenmonkey was updated...

With 15 Str/10 Dex/40 Int/40 Fth, AR (one-handed) for some infusions are as follows:

Crystal - 458
Simple - 411
Lightning - 476
Blessed - 304
Chaos/Dark - 478

Oddly, even with a Pyro build, Lightning almost outperforms Chaos and Dark.

With 15 Str/10 Dex/60 Int/10 Faith,

Crystal - 473
Simple - 425

Meanwhile, with 15 Str/10 Dex/10 Int/60 Fth,

Lightning - 491
Blessed - 320

Mind, both 60/10 and 10/60 free up 10 more levels that can be spent elsewhere.

The long and short of these findings is that the Morningstar has oddly above-average compatibility with the Lightning infusion, and even poorer compatibility with the Blessed infusion than most weapons, from what I can tell. It's not split damage, at least...

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These values are wrong Deep Morning star does like 411

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A scaling in dexterity when sharp? This sounds like a good hammer for dexterity "builds"

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someone should put up the scailing damage on the infusions

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After the patch recently, does anyone know the Bleed Value on this thing with 40 Luck and a Bleed infusion? 40 Luck and a Heavy infusion?

I've been working on a Str/Luck/Vit bleed build and this looked like a nice sort-of-fast trading weapon that could get the job done... I was wondering if the difference in bleed prox was significant enough to warrant Bleed infusion over Heavy + Carthus Rouges when necessary. Any help with research would be much appreciated!

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This weapon is AMAZING. Made a hollow 60 luck build and strength. Did some perserverance at invasions and killed 3 people at the same time.

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At 40/40 str/dex with a refined infusion it does 428 damage. Compare that to a heavy reinforced club at 40 str that does 394 damage. It has more range than the club but it is also slower, and you can spend around thirty levels elswhere by sticking with the club with only a penalty of 34 damage.

Unless you are just suplementing your quality build, that is. Then stick with the morning star.

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Wish it would be the Zelda morning star. The one with the chain and a ton heavy boulder. The giant serpent men have a weapon that exactly works like this kind of morning star would.

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A refined morning star+ 9 at 40/40 does 403 damage when wielded with one hand. It's because the dex. bonus goes from E to C.

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Wondering if this weapon would fair better with lightning infusion or raw+lightning blade. Also, because of its inate bleed, was planning to combo it with Dorthy's gnawing miracle too.

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Physical Damage 305Bleed 33Physical DR 42.7%Magic DR 28.5%Fire DR 23.7%Lightning DR 23.7%Dark DR 28.5%Checked in-game on PC today, 17 Aug 2016. I would add these directly onto the page, but the edit button doesn't appear for me for some reason.

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It has higher base damage (while the scaling isn't actually (much) worse, same weight, and comes with the addition of Bleed. use a Carthus Rogue on it, and trade hits (with Perseverance) with an enemy or Invader, and you'll have them scurrying off before long.For some reason though, I can't edit any page on this site. I can click on the button, but I get a blank page as a result.

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Pretty solid weapon for low-level builds11 STR and 9 DEX, making it good if you don't want to spend even 1 point on both STR and DEX,you can infuse it RAW and it performs well.It has perseverance and causes bleeding, cool

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Can someone please fill in the +10 Upgrade tables? The game has been out too long for this to be ok.

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wish this thing didnt have the stupid dmg debuff

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The weapon isn't in the Shrine Handmaid shop for me.

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Description: "Hammer with a sharp spike on its pommel."Pommels are used as counterbalances on the bottom of the weapon's grip. The spikes are on the head of the hammer.

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Description: "Hammer with a sharp spike on its pommel."Pommels are used as counterbalances on the bottom of the weapon's grip. The spikes are on the head of the hammer.

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I kinda want to experiment with a cool bleed build, with this weapon and Dark Spirit Kirk's armor. Especially since rolling into enemies now causes a little damage. Perhaps the Armor of Thorns can cause bleeding? We'll see...

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Lucifer Morningstar?)

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