Orbeck of Vinheim

NPC
General Info
Health Souls Location Drops
2000 1000 Road of Sacrifices Orbeck's Ashes


Orbeck of Vinheim is an NPC in Dark Souls 3.

 

Orbeck's Information

 

Location

You can find Orbeck of Vinheim in Road of Sacrifices on the second floor of the nearby ruins near the Crucifixion Woods bonfire. Go to the ruins that lead to the Crystal Sage boss. You will reach a room that has four doorways and an enemy with a spear and shield. One leads to the boss, one leads to a crystal lizard, and one leads to a room of enemies and the other leads to the second floor of the ruins and Orbeck.

He will relocate to Firelink Shrine after talking to him, but only if you have 10 Intelligence.

  • If you lack points in Intelligence, you can use the Scholar Ring to boost it to 10. Once he's at Firelink, he will no longer care if your intelligence level is too low.

 

Orbeck's Questline

Once Orbeck is at Firelink Shrine, if Yuria is also there, she will ask you to "deal" with him and will reward you with the Morion Blade if you bring her his Ashes. Don't do this if you wish to continue giving him Scrolls to unlock new spells. Orbeck's ashes can be given to Yuria after he dies of natural causes, and she will still reward you with the weapon.

 

  1. Speak with him after buying three Sorceries, giving him one Scroll and being any Non-Sorcerer starting class he will thank you and give you the Young Dragon Ring.
  2. After purchasing Farron Flashsword, Pestilent MistAural Decoy, and Spook he will ask you if you like gimmicks and will give you Slumbering Dragoncrest Ring, along with the Silent Ally gesture.
  3. He will disappear permanently from the game if: a) you defeat Abyss Watchers without giving him a scroll (in unpatched game version) b) you defeat any four bosses after recruiting him without giving him a single scroll for study. Only one scroll is required to prevent him from leaving. If he disappears from the game, you will not be able to get his ashes, and won't be able to complete Yuria of Londor's optional quest. Both the Golden Scroll and Sage's Scroll can be acquired in Farron Keep.
  4. Once all spells are purchased from him, he will acknowledge you as a friend and well-trained sorcerer. He will then leave Firelink Shrine, and you will be able to summon him for the Lothric, Younger Prince boss fight, just outside the large gate leading to the boss fog. You will also need to have defeated the Curse-Rotted Greatwood to see his summon sign.
  5. After defeating Lothric, Younger Prince, Orbeck's corpse will show up sitting at a table at the Grand Archives, on the upper floor where the four sorcery-using candlehead enemies are. From his corpse, his ashes can be looted.
    • If you do not purchase all his spells before this boss fight, he will remain in the Firelink Shrine and will not die. However, in NG+ and beyond, if you talk to him after giving him all four scrolls and having learned all of his spells in a prior playthrough, his departure will be triggered. Note that learned scrolls may be sold, so if you want Orbeck to remain in the Shrine, you might want to sell a spell which is of little use to you (not tested if this will work, needs confirmation).
    • If you do not proceed directly to the next NG, his corpse can be found at the said location even if you did not summon him for the boss fight.

 

Drops

  • Souls: NG 1000, NG+ (??), NG++ (??), NG+3 (??), NG+6 (??), NG+9 (??)
  • Orbeck's Ashes

 

Items Sold

Item Quantity Souls Requirement (Scroll)
Soul Arrow 1 1000 Default
Heavy Soul Arrow 1 2000 Default 
Farron Dart 1 500 Default 
Soul Greatsword 1 5000 Default 
Magic Weapon 1 3000 Default 
Magic Shield 1 3000 Default 
Spook 1 2000 Default 
Aural Decoy 1 2000 Default 
Great Soul Arrow 1 3000 Default
Great Heavy Soul Arrow 1 4000 Default
Farron Flashsword 1 3000 Default
Great Farron Dart 1 2000 Sage's Scroll
Farron Hail 1 5000 Sage's Scroll
Pestilent Mist 1 1000 After giving him any scroll
Cast Light 1 1000 Golden Scroll
Repair 1 2000 Golden Scroll
Hidden Weapon 1 1500 Golden Scroll
Hidden Body 1 3000 Golden Scroll
Twisted Wall of Light 1 6000 Golden Scroll
Homing Soulmass 1 6000 Logan's Scroll
Soul Spear 1 5000 Logan's Scroll
Homing Crystal Soulmass 1 18,000 Crystal Scroll
Crystal Soul Spear 1 15,000 Crystal Scroll
Crystal Magic Weapon 1 10,000 Crystal Scroll

Dialogue

First encounter

Well, this is unexpected. I don't often have visitors.
What do you want?
This is my study that you've happened upon.
If you haven't any business, I've reading to get back to."

(Nothing) "Yes, I see.
On your way, then.
This is my study, and I've plenty of reading to do."

(Talk) "Oh, enough of you, already.
Do you have business with me?"

(Ask to learn sorceries) "How intriguing.
Very well.
Indeed, I am a sorcerer. With plenty to share.
However...
What champion demands service without recompense?
Clearly you are not that sort of man/woman.
So, you will make me a promise.
That in exchange for my teaching, you will bring me knowledge.
In the form of scrolls detailing sorcery's secrets.
Well? Can you assure me of this?"

(Make no promise) "I can respect an honest man/woman.
But I've already put in more than my fair share of gratuitous service.
Be on your way, then.
Though you're welcome back if you change your mind."

(Talk) "Have you changed your mind?
If I am to teach you, you are to fetch me knowledge.
In the form of scrolls detailing the secrets of sorcery.
Can you make this promise?"

(Make a promise) "Very well.
You are no fool. I take it you understand the weight of a promise.
I am Orbeck of Vinheim.
Unkindled one, I shall teach you sorceries.
We will learn together, it shall be like our very own school."

[Ask to learn sorceries with insufficient intelligence]

You'd better not. Sorcery is not for everyone.
And should never be forced. You have your own methods.
Sorcery need not be one of them. Don't let it bother you.
Be on your way, then.
You're Unkindled. Shouldn't you get back to your duty?"

(Talk) "Oh, I thought you'd already given up.
Well, nothing has changed. You're not inclined for sorcery.
It is either a natural fit, or no fit at all.
Be on your way, then.
You're Unkindled. Souldn't you get back to your duty?"

(Talk after 10 int) "Well, well... There's something different bout you, isn't there?
Very well. (the rest is the same as if you had 10 int the first time you talked)

Upon arriving at Firelink Shrine

Oh, you're back, then.
Again, I'm Orbeck of Vinheim, here to teach you sorceries.Let us begin with the basics.
The ideal sorcerer bears the twin faces of the dragon...
...Oh you could at least act as if you are paying attention!"

Talk

I don't mean to seem overbearing, but have you forgotten?
In exchange for my sorceries, you are to bring me knowledge.
In the form of scrolls detailing the secrets of sorcery.
I hope you're not one to break a promise."

Greeting

Back again, I see.
Perfect timing, too. I'm in need of a diversion."

Leaving

Promise to stay safe."

When Crystal Sage has been defeated (not sure)

It is folly to claim lives recklessly, friend. Don not be tempted.
No matter the victim's stature, every killing has a consequence.
Even as I bloodied my hands, I never realised this simple truth.
Hmph. There I was, the very definition of a fool…"

When given Sage's scroll

Oh, my… This is stupendous.
Then the Undead Legion of Farron possesses sorceries quite unknown.
Thank you, for upholding your end of the bargain.
I doubt I ever would have made this discovery alone.
Now, let us unravel the thing, so you may put these new sorceries to use."

When given Golden scroll

Oh, my… This is stupendous.
It's from Oolacile, an ancient land of golden sorceries.
Not even the Dragon School possesses such a long-lost scroll.
What would the xanthous scholars say, with their ridiculous headwear.
They would simply slaver over this find."

When given Logan's scroll

Oh, my! You've made quite the discovery!
This is a scroll of the prodigious Big Hat Logan.
A masterful sorcerer, long missed in Vinheim.
And now, we have his scroll, right here in my very hands."

When given Crystal Scroll

Unfathomable.
This is a crystal sorcery, created by the pale dragon, thought only to exist in legend...
I am ever grateful to you. This is truly sublime.
I am afraid this is a debt I cannot repay, only...
I will be sure to unravel it for you. Just a moment."

Young Dragon Ring

Oh, I have something for you.
You're a fine sorcerer now, no mistake.
You should have something to prove it.
Go on. If I'm giving something away, you'd better well take it." (gift)

Silent Ally & Slumbering Dragoncrest Ring

How do you like gimmicks, friend?
This is a sign, a cipher employed by sorcerers who use quietude to their advantage. (gifts)
With this, you can be sure to tell friend from foe from your very first encounter.
It's a very old practice at this point...
...but one that you deserve to know."

Talk after ring and gesture

In Vinheim, I was an assassin.
A sorcerer only in name, a killer for hire.
What a fool I was, thinking one day I would learn real sorceries.
When I became Undead, I was exiled from the school.
But here I am, now, exploring the depths of sorcery.
All thanks to you, I might add.

After purchasing all scrolls

You are no ordinary man/woman (dependent on character's gender).
All of these sorceries, and you've mastered every one.
If this where the Dragon School, you'd be,...
..well, overtly despised, and banished from the place.
Well I suppose it's time I packed my bag.
I'd hate to see our agreement end sourly.
Better left tucked away as a pleasant memory."

Leaving after purchasing all scrolls

Promise to stay safe.
It's been nice running our own little school."

Upon attacking

What is this about?"

"Is that how it is?" (first encounter)

Upon aggroing

Seems it's too late. Then, there is only one thing left to do.
With regret, I will end this here and now!"

"Then we are thorugh and done.
Enjoy your long sleep!" (first encounter)

Upon killing you

Farewell. We had a nice little school going."

"Gods, this business never did agree with me..." (first encounter)

Upon death

But, why...
Is that all I'm worth?"

"Ive lost...my touch..." (first encounter)

 

Notes & Trivia

  • If you are unable to meet Orbeck's intelligence requirement to get him back to Firelink Shrine, you can play the entire game and he will remain in his study at the Road of Sacrifices. You can then use the Scholar Ring you find later in the game to artificially boost your intelligence and return him to the Shrine. Be sure to immediately return and hand over any scrolls you have. It is unsure when he leaves after all bosses have already been defeated.
  • You don't have to summon him for the Twin Princes fight to get his ashes.
  • If his corpse doesn't appear at the Grand Archives, teleport back to Firelink Shrine and make sure that he left, then go back and his ashes should be there.
  • Orbeck confesses to being an assassin for Vinheim Dragon School. This lends credence to the theory that Griggs of Vinheim from Dark Souls I is also an assassin as they wear the same black robes associated with sorcerer assassins.

 

 

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    • Anonymous

      11 Sep 2019 20:04  

      After I bought most of sorceries and spoke to him immediately after leaving, his dialogue added a bit I haven't heard before and wasnt on the list. Normally he just says "Oh, what is it? Forgot something?" But he added "That would be quite like you." And chuckled a bit. I'm not sure if the change comes from giving him all the scrolls or buying a certain number of spells.

      • Anonymous

        01 Sep 2019 02:53  

        Wow I played through the game several times, never having an issue with completing his questline fully and easily. I thought I knew all the do and do nots, but I never knew about the "defeating any four bosses without giving him a scroll" thing. I have heard of many people complaining about the ways they messed up this quest, but never heard a whisper about there being a boss count tied to his quest. You guys really did your research when it comes to what can and cannot break an NPC questline. So basically, on NG++, i recruit him, then decide to play through the DLC bosses, come back and just do the deacons boss and he is out. That boy done gone forever yo.

        • Anonymous

          31 Aug 2019 07:51  

          His departing dialogue at first is, "come again," but after a while changes to, "promise to stay safe." I'm not sure if the change happens after you give him a certain amount of scrolls, or after you purchase a certain amount of sorceries. I just thought it was interesting

          • Anonymous

            30 Aug 2019 23:38  

            I killed twin princes and bought all this stuff after. He still left and i could still find his ashes in grand archives

            • Anonymous

              11 Aug 2019 19:11  

              To clarify on Orbeck's spawning rate inconsistencies... > If you DO NOT TALK TO HIM AT ALL before defeating the bosses that would trigger his de-spawning, he will not ever actually despawn to my knowledge. > If you SPEAK TO HIM FIRST before proceeding through the game, e.g. killing the Abyss Watchers, he WILL DESPAWN. I've had the displeasure of encountering both incidents, due to my nature of gathering the last scroll before it occurs to me to actually hand them in after bringing him to Firelink. Whoops.

              • Anonymous

                06 Aug 2019 06:03  

                Lore wise, I'm confused about why Yuria wants you to kill him. She says he claims to be a lord of hollows but there's nothing to indicate that he is.

                • Anonymous

                  22 Jul 2019 15:33  

                  Just reinforcing what some said here. I didn't know about him before killing the abyss watchers. I read this here and kind of freaked out. But he was there at his place to be recruted. I did so and he was at firelink shrine, where I gave him the scrolls.

                  • Anonymous

                    06 Jul 2019 07:50  

                    I beat all the bosses (including DLC) except for the last one and he was still in his original spot in the Crucifixion Woods.

                    • Anonymous

                      01 Jul 2019 03:19  

                      So I cleared all bosses up to the final fight in the base game , cleared the ashes dlc and got stuck on the dragon in the 2nd dlc. Decided to respect to int build and was still able to find and recruit him.

                      • Anonymous

                        24 May 2019 17:03  

                        Remove that tip, he can't be found if you kill the abyss watchers, so no you can't use the scholar's ring to meet his 10 int req. What should be there is either to just get 10 int and respec at rosaria later or to choose a starting class other than cleric/heald/knight to meet his req.

                        • Anonymous

                          10 May 2019 13:40  

                          Do you have to buy all his spells from him? What if I bought spells that he sells from other vendors? Do I have to buy them again from him just to progress the quest line?

                          • Anonymous

                            08 Apr 2019 21:16  

                            Just so everyone is clear. I had him in Firelink shrine asap and then went on to kill every boss without purchasing any spells. After every boss being dead I purchased every spell and I still found his ashes in the Grand Archives.

                            • Anonymous

                              18 Feb 2019 21:19  

                              After purchasing all scrolls and killing him he said something different "Oh well... It was fun while it lasted" Or something like that

                              • Anonymous

                                18 Feb 2019 04:50  

                                Thought you guys should know that if you beat DLC bosses without giving him the scrolls, he will still disappear.

                                • Anonymous

                                  18 Jan 2019 01:03  

                                  I recruited and did Orbeck’s entire questline after killing Lothric and before lighting the fire. I bought all his spells and then found his ashes in the Grand Archives. So you probably don’t have to buy all his sorceries before killing Lothric.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    06 Jan 2019 15:05  

                                    He ventured to the Grand Archives to learn more about sorcery, only to discover Seath The Scaleless’s secret collection of vast Priscilla *****. He perished a very happy undead! :P

                                    • Anonymous

                                      09 Nov 2018 03:42  

                                      Biggest piece of***** in all the souls games. Basically locks you out of all good sorceries for the ENTIRE game, unless you are clairvoyant enough to give him scrolls when his majesty wants them.

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