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Orbeck of Vinheim

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???? ??? Road of Sacrifices Orbeck's Ashes


Orbeck of Vinheim is an NPC in Dark Souls 3.

 

Orbeck's Information

 

Location

You can find Orbeck of Vinheim in Road of Sacrifices on the second floor of the nearby ruins near the Crucifixion Woods bonfire. Go to the ruins that lead to the Crystal Sage boss. You will reach a room that has four doorways and an enemy with a spear and shield. One leads to the boss, one leads to a crystal lizard, and one leads to a room of enemies and the other leads to the second floor of the ruins and Orbeck.

He will relocate to Firelink Shrine after talking to him, but only if you have 10 Intelligence.

  • If you lack points in Intelligence, you can use the Scholar Ring to boost it to 10. Once he's at Firelink, he will no longer care if your intelligence level is too low.

 

Orbeck's Questline

Once Orbeck is at Firelink Shrine, if Yuria is also there, she will ask you to "deal" with him and will reward you with the Morion Blade if you bring her his Ashes. Don't do this if you wish to continue giving him Scrolls to unlock new spells. Orbeck's ashes can be given to Yuria after he dies of natural causes, and she will still reward you with the weapon.

 

  1. Speak with him after buying three Sorceries, giving him one Scroll and being any Non-Sorcerer starting class he will thank you and give you the Young Dragon Ring.
  2. After purchasing Farron Flashsword, Pestilent MistAural Decoy, and Spook he will ask you if you like gimmicks and will give you Slumbering Dragoncrest Ring, along with the Silent Ally gesture.
  3. He will disappear permanently from the game should you defeat Abyss Watchers (Orbeck will leave if you beat Abyss Watchers without giving him a scroll in unpatched game version) or any four bosses after recruiting him without giving him a single scroll for study. Only one scroll is required to prevent him from leaving. If he disappears from the game, you will not be able to get his ashes, and won't be able to complete Yuria of Londor's optional quest. Both the Golden Scroll and Sage's Scroll can be acquired in Farron Keep.
  4. Once all spells are purchased from him, he will acknowledge you as a friend and well-trained sorcerer. He will then leave Firelink Shrine, and you will be able to summon him for the Lothric, Younger Prince boss fight, just outside the large gate leading to the boss fog. You will also need to have defeated the Curse-Rotted Greatwood to see his summon sign.
  5. After defeating Lothric, Younger Prince, Orbeck's corpse will show up sitting at a table at the Grand Archives, on the upper floor where the four sorcery-using candlehead enemies are. From his corpse, his ashes can be looted.
    • If you do not purchase all his spells before this boss fight, he will remain in the Firelink Shrine and will not die. However, in NG+ and beyond, if you talk to him after giving him all four scrolls and having learned all of his spells in a prior playthrough, his departure will be triggered. Note that learned scrolls may be sold, so if you want Orbeck to remain in the Shrine, you might want to sell a spell which is of little use to you (not tested if this will work, needs confirmation).
    • If you do not proceed directly to the next NG, his corpse can be found at the said location even if you did not summon him for the boss fight.

 

Drops

  • Souls: NG (??), NG+ (??), NG++ (??), NG+3 (??), NG+6 (??), NG+9 (??)
  • Orbeck's Ashes

 

Items Sold

Item Quantity Souls Requirement (Scroll)
Soul Arrow 1 1000 Default
Heavy Soul Arrow 1 2000 Default 
Farron Dart 1 500 Default 
Soul Greatsword 1 5000 Default 
Magic Weapon 1 3000 Default 
Magic Shield 1 3000 Default 
Spook 1 2000 Default 
Aural Decoy 1 2000 Default 
Great Soul Arrow 1 3000 Default
Great Heavy Soul Arrow 1 4000 Default
Farron Flashsword 1 3000 Default
Great Farron Dart 1 2000 Sage's Scroll
Farron Hail 1 5000 Sage's Scroll
Pestilent Mist 1 1000 After giving him any scroll
Cast Light 1 1000 Golden Scroll
Repair 1 2000 Golden Scroll
Hidden Weapon 1 1500 Golden Scroll
Hidden Body 1 3000 Golden Scroll
Twisted Wall of Light 1 6000 Golden Scroll
Homing Soulmass 1 6000 Logan's Scroll
Soul Spear 1 5000 Logan's Scroll
Homing Crystal Soulmass 1 18,000 Crystal Scroll
Crystal Soul Spear 1 15,000 Crystal Scroll
Crystal Magic Weapon 1 10,000 Crystal Scroll

Dialogue

First encounter

Well, this is unexpected. I don't often have visitors.
What do you want?
This is my study that you've happened upon.
If you haven't any business, I've reading to get back to."

(Nothing) "Yes, I see.
On your way, then.
This is my study, and I've plenty of reading to do."

(Talk) "Oh, enough of you, already.
Do you have business with me?"

(Ask to learn sorceries) "How intriguing.
Very well.
Indeed, I am a sorcerer. With plenty to share.
However...
What champion demands service without recompense?
Clearly you are not that sort of man/woman.
So, you will make me a promise.
That in exchange for my teaching, you will bring me knowledge.
In the form of scrolls detailing sorcery's secrets.
Well? Can you assure me of this?"

(Make no promise) "I can respect an honest man/woman.
But I've already put in more than my fair share of gratuitous service.
Be on your way, then.
Though you're welcome back if you change your mind."

(Talk) "Have you changed your mind?
If I am to teach you, you are to fetch me knowledge.
In the form of scrolls detailing the secrets of sorcery.
Can you make this promise?"

(Make a promise) "Very well.
You are no fool. I take it you understand the weight of a promise.
I am Orbeck of Vinheim.
Unkindled one, I shall teach you sorceries.
We will learn together, it shall be like our very own school."

[Ask to learn sorceries with insufficient intelligence]

You'd better not. Sorcery is not for everyone.
And should never be forced. You have your own methods.
Sorcery need not be one of them. Don't let it bother you.
Be on your way, then.
You're Unkindled. Shouldn't you get back to your duty?"

(Talk) "Oh, I thought you'd already given up.
Well, nothing has changed. You're not inclined for sorcery.
It is either a natural fit, or no fit at all.
Be on your way, then.
You're Unkindled. Souldn't you get back to your duty?"

(Talk after 10 int) "Well, well... There's something different bout you, isn't there?
Very well. (the rest is the same as if you had 10 int the first time you talked)

Upon arriving at Firelink Shrine

Oh, you're back, then.
Again, I'm Orbeck of Vinheim, here to teach you sorceries.Let us begin with the basics.
The ideal sorcerer bears the twin faces of the dragon...
...Oh you could at least act as if you are paying attention!"

Talk

I don't mean to seem overbearing, but have you forgotten?
In exchange for my sorceries, you are to bring me knowledge.
In the form of scrolls detailing the secrets of sorcery.
I hope you're not one to break a promise."

Greeting

Back again, I see.
Perfect timing, too. I'm in need of a diversion."

Leaving

Promise to stay safe."

When Crystal Sage has been defeated (not sure)

It is folly to claim lives recklessly, friend. Don not be tempted.
No matter the victim's stature, every killing has a consequence.
Even as I bloodied my hands, I never realised this simple truth.
Hmph. There I was, the very definition of a fool…"

When given Sage's scroll

Oh, my… This is stupendous.
Then the Undead Legion of Farron possesses sorceries quite unknown.
Thank you, for upholding your end of the bargain.
I doubt I ever would have made this discovery alone.
Now, let us unravel the thing, so you may put these new sorceries to use."

When given Golden scroll

Oh, my… This is stupendous.
It's from Oolacile, an ancient land of golden sorceries.
Not even the Dragon School possesses such a long-lost scroll.
What would the xanthous scholars say, with their ridiculous headwear.
They would simply slaver over this find."

When given Logan's scroll

Oh, my! You've made quite the discovery!
This is a scroll of the prodigious Big Hat Logan.
A masterful sorcerer, long missed in Vinheim.
And now, we have his scroll, right here in my very hands."

When given Crystal Scroll

Unfathomable.
This is a crystal sorcery, created by the pale dragon, thought only to exist in legend...
I am ever grateful to you. This is truly sublime.
I am afraid this is a debt I cannot repay, only...
I will be sure to unravel it for you. Just a moment."

Young Dragon Ring

Oh, I have something for you.
You're a fine sorcerer now, no mistake.
You should have something to prove it.
Go on. If I'm giving something away, you'd better well take it." (gift)

Silent Ally & Slumbering Dragoncrest Ring

How do you like gimmicks, friend?
This is a sign, a cipher employed by sorcerers who use quietude to their advantage. (gifts)
With this, you can be sure to tell friend from foe from your very first encounter.
It's a very old practice at this point...
...but one that you deserve to know."

Talk after ring and gesture

In Vinheim, I was an assassin.
A sorcerer only in name, a killer for hire.
What a fool I was, thinking one day I would learn real sorceries.
When I became Undead, I was exiled from the school.
But here I am, now, exploring the depths of sorcery.
All thanks to you, I might add.

After purchasing all scrolls

You are no ordinary man/woman (dependent on character's gender).
All of these sorceries, and you've mastered every one.
If this where the Dragon School, you'd be,...
..well, overtly despised, and banished from the place.
Well I suppose it's time I packed my bag.
I'd hate to see our agreement end sourly.
Better left tucked away as a pleasant memory."

Leaving after purchasing all scrolls

Promise to stay safe.
It's been nice running our own little school."

Upon attacking

What is this about?"

"Is that how it is?" (first encounter)

Upon aggroing

Seems it's too late. Then, there is only one thing left to do.
With regret, I will end this here and now!"

"Then we are thorugh and done.
Enjoy your long sleep!" (first encounter)

Upon killing you

Farewell. We had a nice little school going."

"Gods, this business never did agree with me..." (first encounter)

Upon death

But, why...
Is that all I'm worth?"

"Ive lost...my touch..." (first encounter)

 

Notes & Trivia

  • If you are unable to meet Orbeck's intelligence requirement to get him back to Firelink Shrine, you can play the entire game and he will remain in his study at the Road of Sacrifices. You can then use the Scholar Ring you find later in the game to artificially boost your intelligence and return him to the Shrine. Be sure to immediately return and hand over any scrolls you have. It is unsure when he leaves after all bosses have already been defeated.
  • You don't have to summon him for the Twin Princes fight to get his ashes.
  • If his corpse doesn't appear at the Grand Archives, teleport back to Firelink Shrine and make sure that he left, then go back and his ashes should be there.
  • Orbeck confesses to being an assassin for Vinheim Dragon School. This lends credence to the theory that Griggs of Vinheim from Dark Souls I is also an assassin as they wear the same black robes associated with sorcerer assassins.

 

 

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    • Anonymous

      09 Nov 2018 03:42  

      Biggest piece of***** in all the souls games. Basically locks you out of all good sorceries for the ENTIRE game, unless you are clairvoyant enough to give him scrolls when his majesty wants them.

      • Anonymous

        29 Oct 2018 03:55  

        Im getting some dialouge not here after purchasing all the scrolls. "Again, I'm Orbeck of Vinheim, here to teach you sorceries. Let us begin with the basics. The ideal sorcerer bears the twin faces of the dragon... ...Oh you could at least act as if your paying attention!" I'm not sure the exact requirements for this dialogue

        • 12 Aug 2018 15:03  

          He doesn't disappear after defeating Abyss Watchers while he's recruited and not giving him any scroll prior, provided that you didn't talk to him yet. I can confirm that even after killing Wolnir and running around Irithyll, he was still there. Also he doesn't die in NG+ after getting all scrolls if you have all his spells, you have to buy them all over again in order to finish his questline.

          • 19 Jul 2018 06:58  

            What weapon does Orbeck use if you aggro him? I saw a video of FighterPL "tricking" someone into attacking Orbeck and he pulled out some kind of straight sword that did a lot of damage. This wiki doesn't say.

            • Anonymous

              12 Jul 2018 23:21  

              I can confrim that if you sell some spells in NG+ Orbeck will stay in the shrine and not die after you give him all 4 scrolls. So fear not Orveck lovers, ye boy lives on

              • 15 Mar 2018 09:12  

                Despite giving him scrolls that fascinates him and gives him studious joy, ?-? He still is a subpar Sorcerer once summoned to Twin Princes. He should of gained the spells of Crystal and even use the Crystal Chime, but instead he's reduced to just using Farron Flashsword, Great Farron Dart? Honestly I think maybe Farron Dart, also Pestilent Mist he also uses... I think a Soul Arrow or Great? Both Orbeck and Sirris have horrible movesets and can't dodge to save their life, but if an NPC like Hodrick or Leonard are attack with projectiles, will spam roll?..? Also Sirris will cast Great Heal with poise at around the wrong times, they both will hardly survive the first fight and good luck having them survive once Lothric comes to piggyback.

                • Anonymous

                  23 Feb 2018 03:39  

                  This guy is probably the most interesting NPC in DS3. He leaves the shrine if you dont give him any scrolls or after teaching you all he can, Yuria has a target on his back and he used to be an assasin who got mad he was never taught enough.

                  He may be another Unkindled, seeing that he can tell that you are one, and is the NPC summon specific for the Lothric boss fight. He was also an assassin so he could be the third black hand.

                  Also Yuria wanting him dead is really curious. Some people think she wants his spells but he knows very few until you teach him. Seeing that, combined with his skin tone and the curious fact that someone kills anri if you dont kill the pilgrim with her and dont follow the Lord of Londor questline, maybe the third sister of the church was boosting him up to be the Lord of Hollows. If there is a power play for londor maybe Yuria wants to sponsor you and doesnt want any competition. None of this explains why he can be foun dead at the archives, though.

                  • Anonymous

                    17 Feb 2018 03:28  

                    I have a highly speculative theory about this guy, you see every unkindled we encounter has some relation with the lords of cinder (Hawkwood, Siegward, Anri) but none are related to prince lothric, except maybe this guy, you see he is also unkindled, and also confesses to be an assassin, you can summon him to fight prince lothric but only after buying all spells (so he goes back to been an assasin) so that leads me to believe in the following possibilities: A) he is the 3rd Black Hand (along with Kamui and Gotthard) unlikely since he doenst have the same uniform B) He could be an assassin from Londor (the sable church) he does look like the pale shade (and the londor skin tone) and there is some behind the scenes relationship with Yuria or C) He is one of the assasins sent to kill King Oceiros or D) all of the Above at the same time

                    • Anonymous

                      28 Jan 2018 21:28  

                      Beat twin princes, then purchased all spells from Orbeck. Regardless, he left to visit the archives, so the article is either false or out-of-date

                      • Anonymous

                        07 Jan 2018 16:07  

                        i have a question, is necessary to summon orbeck for the lothric, younger prince fight? so he can be found dead in the grand archives?

                        • 02 Jan 2018 08:08  

                          Orbeck does NOT disappear at all should you not recruit him during the entirety of the game. I've tested this twice on separate characters. As stated in the wiki under the "notes", if you kill the Abyss Watchers without recruiting him to Firelink Shrine, he remains in his study. If you recruit him AFTER you've killed the Abyss Watchers, then he will remain in Firelink Shrine until your begin you next journey through the game.

                          • Anonymous

                            15 Dec 2017 08:04  

                            As I regard to say, after recuiting him... he did disappear. He is not at the shrine and not at the road of sacrifice.

                            This was most likely because I defeat 4+ bosses.

                            So I can confirm this.

                            • Anonymous

                              28 Nov 2017 06:12  

                              I think he has the same voice actor as "Laurence, the first Vicar" of the Healling Church from Bloodborne. It's one of the most important characters there, on Artorias/Gwyn level. Noteworthy in my opinion.

                              • Anonymous

                                10 Nov 2017 09:37  

                                For some reason Orbeck left the shrine, although I didn't beat any lord of cinder nor did I talked to him even once since I recruited him. But I finished both dlc's, does that mean that Gael counts for him as lord of cinder?

                                • Anonymous

                                  19 Oct 2017 23:45  

                                  "It is folly to claim (...) the very definition of a fool…". Every time he told that to me was right after yuria of londor asked me to kill him.

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