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the invader when I unplug my ethernet cord because I'm busy trying to play the game:

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Why even bother trying to invade when miyazaki has such a hard-on for hosts?

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This a beherit.

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Nope. I've had my fill of assymetrical pvp modes. I'll pass.

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Bro people keep disconnecting right as I'm about to win

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hello? is anyone using this item? for actual random invasions? or are you only frotting with your friendly hosts of embers all day in crucifixion woods?

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"ayo griffith what the **** are you doing"

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I get that what the invader is intended to do is not to kill the host every time, it is to hinder their progress. But there is absolutely no way for the latter to happen, has the game itself takes the "holding your hand through the game" to the most absurd extremes. Why not let them hinder the host's progress (if they're even progressing instead of ganking) by adding red versions of minibosses that lasts as long as the invader survives? Why not let them sabotage summons by turning white signs into purple ones? Idk, i would like more viable strategies than simply gankspank with big bonk or dagger ripostes.

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It just become stale quickly because of the utter stupidity of prioritizing worlds with summons. Props to gankspankers, they have their due merit, but goddamn i find giant lord farm in ds2 less repetitive.

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I'm not really sure how I feel about invading. It seems like in a fair one on one fight the host will almost always come out on top. Not only do they have more health than the invader thanks to embers but they also likely have double the estus if they've been collecting all the shards becuase summons always get their estus cut in half. Not to mention that the game also seems to prioritise putting invaders with hosts that already have summons so instead of a slightly scewed 1 on 1 fight it becomes a very difficult 1 on 2 or maybe even 1 on 3 and they're very rarely willing to just come after you one at a time.

It feels like the only way to win as an invader is to play dirty. Do things like sneak around, lay traps, jump in at unexpected times and use enemies to your advantage. Which is just fine with me, it's fun to play that way and it suits the lore of invaders anyway. You could argue that it's unfair or unhonourable but it really does seem like the intended way to play invaders.

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Invading is something we all signed up for, but, have some honour when you invade. Had someone watch me fight several mobs in Grand Archives and decided it's fair to get a cheap kill on me. I always make sure the host is not screwed before attacking.

To the guy with Demon Scar who invaded me in Irithyll, you are a great person and you restored my faith in DS3 invasions. Had a fun fight.

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where do cracked eye orbs come from do they come from a darkwaiths mouth or do they magicly fall from the sky

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The forbidden marble

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I would sometimes drop embers just for a token of playing the game. Thanks to the player that gave me the idea by doing the same. :)

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"Those who dare to use the power of the orb, will find themselves trapped in a loop of hide and seek"

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Don't put your dlck in that

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Why is life painful as an invader? Because you weren’t meant to win, you are supposed to be there to hinder the player’s gaming progress and pose as threat when really that is out the door when that player summons 3 phantoms and you are no longer the threat you are just practice for their team work.

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I invaded someone in pontiff arena area and i got teamed on by 4 people of course im going to run then i run to the giants 2 people get crushed by them one tried to throw a hunter charm but missed then i back stabbed them 3 down then the host tried to kill me on his own i ran to the arena then i back stabbed him for the finish then i bowed

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We fight but i love this community

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If you’re in say, watchdogs of farron and you invade someone using this. is your covenant name displayed above your head or just “Dark Spirit”?

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If you twink you’re garbage. Fight people your own level trashcan

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Gwyn, I have never prayed to you before. I have no tongue for it. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad. Why we fought, or why we died. All that matters is that few stood against many. That's what's important! So grant me one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen... then to hell with you.

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Does anyone constantly lose invasions, because they feel the need to be "honorable"? I lose plenty, only to then be like forget honor, and eventually destroy some rando and feel bad, because I wasn't following my own stupid honor code. Which is why right now I'm sticking to red soapstone. Just wondering in case anyone has advice.

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I sincerely hope invasions are not handled like this in Elden Ring, this is basically like a game of rock paper scissors.

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I wish there was a mechanic which doesnt lets you not get run away from invasion if you get invaded fight or wait for help whenever I try to invade host rushes to fog wall can you believe that?

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you should be able to backstab people trying to go through fog walls

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If you want to play online go ahead, nobodies stopping you. But, you are getting an undeniable advantage by playing online and having phantoms that can trivialize the game. So, why are you complaining about being invaded when you are not forced to play online? Invaders balance out the advantage of phantoms, it is completely fair. Stop hating on invaders and go offline.

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Connection error occured.
Returning to your world.

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I play off-line bc im too cheap for ps+ so like. The amount of salt from people on this page is both illuminating and very entertaining

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Almost all problems pvp-wise would be solved if the cracked variant of this red eye orb blocked white phantom summons for the duration of that invasion, and would give that object a purpose to be farmed for.

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I like that they give this so early in 3. The remaster of 1 made matchmaking harder and 2 doesn't even have an orb at all.

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has anyone fact-checked the invasion preferences for specific covenants? like, does invading as a warrior of sunlight actually influence your chance of joining another invader?

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heres a tip for new invaders:
always remember that YOU are the invader. your invading against the hosts will, so the host has every right to run away or to resummon. if the host disconnects, consider that a win. if the host points down, don't think much of it. it's just a game. no one cares. all that matters is that everyone has fun. never point down even if they gank. it just ruins everyons day(unless ur fighter.pl). a true invader only does it for the fun and not the embers.
in conclusion:
everyone have fun and lets try to unsalt this community :)

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Time to kill some casuls with my pkcs

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Lets see.
New player just doing pvp comes across several things while experiencing this community.
1. Point down (something similar to teabagging from Halo days)
2. Throw dung pies aka throw **** on people you defeat.
3. Just keep spamming Vestiges at people.
4. Just in general think you are an awesome invader coz the moment your health is low you just retreat behind pve enemies (looking at Ringed city invasions)
5. Message someone that you are better than them coz you have 100% plat on all dark souls games.

Yes that has been MY experience from the DS3 community. IT wasn't like this in Bloodborne. Thanks.

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People who hate invaders have never felt the adrenaline rush of seeing the words "invading another world as a dark spirit"

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For those who hate being invaded, I have a simple advice : never use embers. I did that for my first playtrough, because I was new at the souls's series and had enough hard time with the PvE. You can't summon phantoms, but I really don't see the point of doing that, because it makes the game much easier so you will not really have a true experience of the game and you will always be a casual imo.
I met too many hosts during invasions that are really agressive with their teammates but just run away and try to re-summon them once they are alone.

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Stop complaining about the invasions when the game is as easy as a telltale game

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The ping on most invaders I get is what really annoys me. A swing hitting me a second later is just annoying, even though I restrict it to local matchmaking. Were they to better filter out invaders with shitty pings, then I'd be more inclined to play online, but I'm not dealing with stutter-butter TriHarDinvad3rLuL's delay.

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invading others should be illegal, I always DC on console and turn on no-dead (can't softban anymore as they disabled itembans) on pc. You're just ruining someone elses game for your enjoyment, and they are probably sociopaths. Why not just play the game intended way?

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Who’s ready for Demon’s Souls and hoping the pvp is dope as hell.

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I wish you could see the SL of an invader next to their health bar. I'm almost convinced invaders have a higher SL than hosts because of the massive difference in damage between us. Is it just me?

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Now invade and pillage all you like, and if you grow weary of your duty you too may become a finger.

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In dark souls 1 i invaded for the souls, the covenants and for the guaranteed fun. Same for dark souls 2 (even more fun considering balance was a thing there). In dark souls 3, however, i see so many ganks cheesing throughout the game that i feel the need to invade and balance things out a little. Of course, ppl doesnt like balance and gives braindead responses and dislikes to anyone who talks about what ds3 did wrong. Unfortunately for them, DeS remake will keep character tendency and world tendency, so they will pay the price of ignorance, sooner or later. Peace.

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sUmMOniNg anOThEr phANtOm......

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Why do I keep coming back to invasions? What else are Unkindled Ashes good for?

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Always a pleasure entertaining my guest with my firebending and my faithful chaos dark sword. Invading alone means you have a real deal in your arsenal and if the host give you a point down, dont fret. Just git gud.

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If I invade a lone host during their adventures through lothric I always bow after the fight if I win, if you point down to solo players in invasions you’re really just being a parody of yourself.

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this item is so berserk, if you know what I mean

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Aaahh, the behelit

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I wish you got an ember or covenant item (pale tongue etc.) every time a host disconnects.

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Invaders doesn't actually invade for the sake of being evil or anything. They just invade to test the host and determine who is a true champion of ash and who is a ganktard wannabe who can't do anything by himself, the latter getting their asses handed to them by high skilled trolls or spears of the church.

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The only thing I think should have been changed about multiplayer is that I think they should have made it to where you would have to re-load an area (die, rest at a bonfire, or go to a different area) before you can re-summon someone. I think this is the only advantage hosts have that is truly overpowered. Not only is it unbalanced for invasions, but it is also pretty unbalanced in PvE when you realize you could just completely cheese every area in PvE by exploiting endless re-summons without having to re-load the area you are in. You and a friend having a hard time with an area? Just keep re-summining them non-stop until they eventually kill everything on the map. If just that one thing were to change I think it would make the game a lot better. Obviously I know it's not going to happen at this point, but I still think it's worth discussing.

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I wish we could stay in the host's world whenever they disconnect, so we can crush them when they get back.

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us invaders have some advantages that outcome the ganking and i will list them here, though obviously 90% of the invaders already know about everything that i will list: we can hide behind the mobs and they won't attack us but will attack the host and their gankers (most obvious one), we dont take damage from falling unless it is a bottomless pit, we also can do plenty of tricks such as hiding with chameleon near a tight cliff edge and then just wait the host to come near and use force or wrath of the gods, and to finish with, in case of way of blue ganking or any other type of gank, we can just run towards and hide behind the hardest respawnable enemy available like for example the giant crabs if you are in road of sacrifices or the flaming-bowl throwers if you are in the undead settlement, etc etc, and just repeat the proccess until the gankers start dying, the possibilities are just infinite, so i dont really get why people complain so much lol, i've been invading for over 2 years now and i had plenty of fun even when facing gankers, and also, when i was a host-player i also did all the cheap tricks possible just like i do nowadays when invading, but at least i was not a coward, i always fought fairly AND honorably without just running away and spamming estus flask, no, i was cautious and actually helped on the fight as well as being aware not to run towards any cliff or hard mob, because doing things like that just make things difficult to your helpers

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Red eye orb + tight cliff edge + talisman + force = A metric ***** ton of salt radiating from the host and his fallen buddies

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hellstar remina

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Cheat Engine kiddies on PC + extremely hard to punish rolls + servers prioritizing 3/4-player rayp teams make invasions in DS3 a masochist's paradise and honestly not worth it. Each of these things on their own are manageable. You can block the obvious cheater. Gank squads stupid enough to be lead into a group of high-level mob aren't a guarantee but they do exist and annihilating them that way can make up for the ones that just hug the bonfire waiting to kill you. But when added together just make it a pain not worth the rewards. What irks me the most is finding out that Bloodborne invasions are actually fun, and proof that you *can* design a game that's fun for invaders and that it doesn't need to come at a cost of making it unfair to hosts. Even dealing with a full squad in that game is fun because if you play your cards right, there's a good chance you come out on top, and that the outcome is far more dependent on your skill, which motivates you to improve. Here though? "Lol suck it up and have this point down xDDDD" How did Fromsoft get it so right one year and blew it the next will always be a mystery to me.

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Just starting invasions and have a lot of fun. My self applied rules are to always respect and bow to enemies, don't attack the host if he does not want to fight (it's pointless and no fun). I ve met some really nice hosts and blues with him and tried to make him use a seed to help him with the mobs. Also had some very good 1vx or 2vx battles with fellow invaders. It's a lot of fun and skill will come with practice.

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Dark souls PvP was better when there was no dark souls and we actually just stabbed each other with swords. Please patch this back fromsoft

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NPC invaders try and kill you, the embered host. Just take a hint. If you want to invade yourself, kill the embered host. Don't bow at gankers, don't assist gankers. Respect your fellow invaders unless they, without a shadow of a doubt, disrespect you. The guaranteed 1v1 with a solo host should be taken as such. Always note and respect the skill of a host, phantoms and dark spirits, no matter the level. If they pull out scummy tactics, you pull out scummy tactics. Be polite and have fun.

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If you're at least a little bit competent at your PvP ability, try to invade cause you'll might actually enjoy it.

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b e h e r i t

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The simple answer is; hosts hate invaders, and invaders hate hosts. As someone who’s done both, I can say there’s plenty of cheap tactics on both sides.

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Pveirs are assholes

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Good spirited invaders will get a fair duel assholes get an asshole from an asshole. After that I still get hate mail

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From being a phantom to runnin around as a comie or Aldrich phantoms are like nazis looking for Jews while invaders at gang city are troops on the beachs of Normandy whoever wins still look like the bad guy in the defeateds eyes

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Invaders have such a disadvantage, hosts are usually 26 SL above them, phantoms are 16 levels above the host, Invaders, on average, have to deal with people literally a dozen or MORE levels above them and get crapped on for actually being intelligent and using the environment to their advantage

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Invaders have such a disadvantage, host can open chests and pick up Items, phantoms can only open chests, but Invader...OH Invaders, they can't do either!

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Killed by three different Invaders when I have no summons or any assistance and gets destroyed cause I could do anything...gets pointed down on.

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CoNnEcTiOn ErRoR oCcUrReD. Returning to your world.

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Fun fact for the author of this wiki. Mound Makers drop a Vertebra Shackle when they die but only for the person who dealt the death blow to them.

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The only "etiquette" invaders should adhere to is that if you find the host going solo, don't pull any cheap BS like trying to drag him to nearby mobs. Yes, he's got the HP advantage, but 1v1 invasions are rare enough that hosts should at least be spared from excessively-pain-in-the-ass invasions if they forego ganking. Otherwise everything is fair game. And yes, every invader hates gank squads, but a lot of people hate invaders too. Always remember 3v1 or 4v1 usually results in arrogance among the gankers. It's not uncommon for them to be willing to get themselves dragged into a fight with mobs that can end up wrecking the cr*p out of them, assuming you don't sit on the sidelines. Use that to your advantage. 4v1 fights will likely end up with you getting pointed down on, but when finally manage to smash their faces in... boy does it make every failed attempt worth it. Having your whole squad wiped out by a one red phantom is a thousand times more humiliating than getting ganked to death for the 5th time that day.

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for people who are sh¡t at pvp like i am, a pretty good way to farm invasion covenant items is to try to help a host through a hard area. it sounds counter-productive, but i got all 30 tongues for rosaria's covenant in i think two days doing this. either they make it all the way there and you've helped someone, or they die and you get an item. i mostly do this in the dreg heap and the swamp in the ringed city.

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After midnight in the US invasions basically become a war against China, and they have weaponized lag on their side.

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After hundreds of invasions under each covenant and across multiple SLs and locations, I really haven't noticed anything at all suggesting that Mound Makers or Sunlight covenants have any sort of preference towards worlds with other invaders present. Nearly every single time I've been dropped into a world with another invader present or have had another invader appear in a world I'm currently invading, we've both been reds.

I still like to pretend it makes a difference, but at this point I'm comfortable concluding it really doesn't. Just pick the covenant you like and roll with it.

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Right, killed darkwraith, no orb, what do I do?!

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BEHERITO!

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keep your hacks out of my game chinese fu*ks

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If you plan to use this alot, remember to make your presence very clear when invading. Depending on your covenant, you probably want to fight one of their blue phantoms. Select your target and make it known you'd like to fight that one particular foe. Be courteous and give them time to gear up. Leave the host alone if you can help it. If you have difficulty invading foes, going for fair one on one duels will drastically decrease the chances of anyone chugging sunny-D (It's considered courtesy in a duel to not use estus), and also drastically decrease your chances of getting ganked. Even players with a gank squad might hold off on attacking if you choose to duel a blue phantom instead. You get a forked tongue and an ember in the best case, and don't have much to lose in the worst case.

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twink or die. Cool videos on youtube from people taking it up against 5 people...but I don't have 10000hours to sacrifice just to get this level of "gud". And the rest of the 99,99% of the players don't have this time either. and is it just me or are half the ds3 player since january chinese people, hacking the sh*t out of this game? no racist just an observation. chinese with stone skin, with endless stamina...chinese floating around in the air....ah ofcourse. Now I remember Confucius and his famous text about hacking DS3....communism what have you become...

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Is it just me or does anybody else notices the similarity between red eye orb and Beherit in Berserk? Honestly I won't be surprised if Miyazaki uses the Beherit as an inspiration for the red eye orb considering how much of a fan he is of Berserk series and several other references to that series in the game

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Invasions are total garbo. You ALWAYS lose all of your souls. Ring of Sacrifice will not prevent this.

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This is a very unique item. You use it to decrease the amount of healing you can do and summons 3 or 4 other players (usually consisting of white and yellow phantoms always with a host) who will continue to gank you and abuse their position of having more overall healing, more people and more spamming resulting in them actually thinming they are good. 10/10 thanks Miazaki

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DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED
DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED
DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED
DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED
DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED
DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED
DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED

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Little pro tip for anyone using this: Be you Red or purple or a covenant invasion (except Aldrich Faithfuls. You guys can go suck a dick) When you invade and you locate the host, offer a duel. I've found both hosts and any phantoms they have are much more willing to fight fair with you if you bow for a duel. Besides dying in a duel is definitely less humiliating then attempting to ambush them, getting yanked, and then being "Pointed down" at. Call me casual if ya want but this method works a whole lot better for me then attempting to ambush them and end up getting ganked

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I just got 5 Cracked Red Eye Orbs from a shady looking guy leaning on Prince Lothrics throne. I haven't beaten Vordt. Just unlocked the Fire Keepers Shrine. Who is this guy? Might want to update the Wiki. I defeated every enemy except Vordt and beyond.

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I was the host and been playing with my friend and we where at the Lothric Castle.
We got invaded by 2 Players but i defnitely didn't used the Dried Finger... how is this possible?

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It could possibly resemble the behelit from berserk, because of the influense of berserk on the souls series

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Killing a Sentinel from the Blue Sentinels*, not the Way of the Blue. Typo?

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1v4? Maybe I can´t win but definitely I can someone piss off. Obscuring ring and dragonslayer greatbow, how much fun I had..

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Dark souls is the best

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it looks a bit like the egg of the seed from berserk
https://d1m6vmmwsgiy3l.cloudfront.net/images/screenshots/screenshot_5_17357.jpg

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Better matchmaking should be present tbh the amount of times I've invaded 4 man gank group is just ridiculous.

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So I'm not sure how, but after I killed the darkwraith and got the orb, went back to Leonhard to get the Appause gesture and he was still talking about getting an uncracked orb, so I went back to where the darkwraith appears and he is still standing there.

I thought this darkwraith didn't respawn?

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How many time have I invaded four man gank squads along with way of blue for extra gankiness? too many times.

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Long live the Red Eye Ord! The most awesome item of the whole Dark Souls series.
Not for the faint of heart! You will need great skills, uncanny map knowledge and a good build to make it as a Dark Souls mob. Remember these golden rules of invasion:
- Never invade an area you didn't clear.
- Wear the Obscuring Ring; it is the root of invasion gameplay, whatever the haters say.
- Know the area you invade Inside and out. Use passages, heights and bottlenecks to your advantage.
- Never engage the host in a fair situation, and use surprise to your advantage. Stalk and wait for the***** to get real; then add the cherry on top.
- Use the monsters as much as possible.
- Hide, wait, hit hard, run away; rince and repeat.
- Chug Estus to stay alive.
- Always ask yourself this question: "What would be for me the most horrifying, annoying thing that could happen in this portion of the map?" Your answer to this question is the plan that you should try to execute.
- When facing a gank, don't engage and stalk your preys. They have to play the actual game at some point. When they do, punish them as unfairly as possible using the mobs and the environment. Oh; and parry their attacks to thin their numbers quickly.
- Most people backtrack to the last bonfire when they are being invaded. Many maps will allow you to punish them for doing so. Your last option should be to accept a fair, face to face duel.

Note that you should never do ANY of those things if you are actually in a duel.
Or you could do them anyway, as long as you are ready for the retalition.
Playing Beyond Good and Evil is the essence of Dark Souls.

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strange thing: today I've used the red eye orb while in the farron covenant and I've invaded as a farron guardian

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Recently started playing this game. I have a question. I was reading on this site that the best way to farm for pale tongues are by killing the two dark wraiths right after the farren bonfire. That being said, the only things I've been getting on a consecutive base are red eye orbs from them. Was there any changes/patches recently? I haven't gotten one pale tongue from them, only red eye orbs. If anyone can respond, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks

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Too bad its worthless. "invades someone" 4 man gank squad....nice

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