Soul of Cinder

hp.jpg souls.jpg Location
Phase 1 6557
Phase 2 4209
100,000 Kiln of the First Flame
Drops Soul of the Lords
Weak Resistant Immune



Vow of Silence (1st phase, sorcerer set)




Soul of Cinder is a Boss enemy in Dark Souls 3. Soul of Cinder is the Final Boss of Dark Souls 3. It is seen as the amalgamation of all the Lords of Cinder, with a variety of Dark Dialectics spells and movesets used during its first phase and the use of Gwyn's moveset for the second phase.

Soul of Cinder Information

  • You can summon Yuria of Londor to help you fight this enemy. (Must have done Anri's event in Darkmoon tomb and Yuria must not be hostile) Summon sign can be found just before the boss fog.
  • You can summon Londor Pale Shade  to help you fight this enemy.  Summon can be found at mid way up the long winding stairs to the boss arena, turn to your right look for the white sign.
  • This boss is not an optional boss fight.
  • For endings after defeating it, see the Game Progress Route and/or Kiln of the First Flame.


Soul of Cinder Location


Soul of Cinder Drops

  • Souls: NG (100,000), NG+ (150,000), NG++ (220,000), NG+3 (225,000), NG+4 (240,000), NG+6 (250,000), NG+7 (255,000)
  • Souls: NG (75,000 with 1 phantom)
  • Souls: NG (25,000 with 2 phantoms)
  • Soul of the Lords


Combat Information

Health Information

  • Phase 1: NG (6557), NG+ (6655), NG++ (7321), NG+3 (7653), NG+4 (7986), NG+5 (8652), NG+6 (8985), NG+7 (9317)
  • Phase 2: NG (4209), NG+ (4272), NG++ (4700), NG+3 (4913), NG+4 (5127), NG+5 (5554), NG+6 (5768), NG+7 (5982)

 Other tips for Soul of Cinder

  • Cannot be parried. Can be poise-broken but with no opening for a critical attack.
  • Cannot be spell parried.
  • Weak to Lightning Damage and Dark Damage.
  • While using Sorcery set during phase one, he is extremely vulnerable to Vow of Silence
  • Resistant to Fire Damage.
  • Resistant to Frost but can be Frostbitten after a series of hits, which slows him slightly.
  • Highly resistant to Bleed, but not immune.
  • Immune to Poison/Toxic.
  • During Phase 1, Soul of Cinder will alternate through 4 various movesets during the fight. Its first moveset consists of standard melee sword swings and thrusts, its second involves the use of soul sorceries such as Crystal Soul Mass and Crystal Soul Spear, its third moveset involves the use of Pyromancy such as Power Within and Great Fireball in addition to the use of a curved sword style (capable of parrying the player) and acrobatic dodges. Its fourth moveset involves a Spear weapon and using Miracles such as Wrath of the Gods and Heal. Defeating the Soul of Cinder will cause it to regenerate all of its HP with an AoE attack followed by an aerial slash, moving on to phase 2.
  • During 1st phase, while using sword set, deals Fire Damage, Thrust Damage and Standard Damage.
  • During 1st phase, while using sorcery set, deals Magic Damage, Fire Damage and Strike Damage.
  • During 1st phase, while using pike, deals Thrust Damage, Standard Damage and Fire Damage.
  • During 1st phase, while using curved sword, deals Fire Damage and Slash Damage. May also Poison.
  • For Phase 2, Soul of Cinder switches to Greatsword and becomes far more aggresive. In addition, he adopts few Gwyn's moves and use miracles dealing lightning damage.
  • During 2nd phase, deals Fire Damage, Lightning Damage, Standard Damage and Thrust Damage.
  • The NPC summons cannot take the Soul of Cinder to Phase 2; a player - either the host or summoned players - must deal damage to the boss in order for the phase to change. Armor of Thorns can cause this change to occur.


Soul of Cinder Strategies

Video Strategies


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Strategy 1 (Melee)

NORMAL MELEE MOVESET. Hardest one to get used to but gives many good openings. Stay near or in medium distance from it and circle to right. The key is to memorize the slow charged attacks so that you don't roll too soon. If you get hit and need to heal, roll away from it and make some distance. This moveset makes the Soul of Cinder highly aggressive, it will attempt to rush you down as soon as you try to gain some distance so hit-and-away strategies are not as effective here as they are with other bosses. It pays off to be aggressive in kind as the more damage you do to it in a short space of time, the closer it gets to being stunned and changing movesets.

MAGE MOVESET.  Keeping close is the way to beat this moveset, as most of its sorceries are activated upon reaching a certain distance from it. Homing Soulmass won't fire behind it and even if it does, simply by walking right you dodge it. It never dodges anything and casts slowly so you have great openings to do serious damage. Pontiff's Right Eye ring helps here (consecutive attacks gives dmg boost). The best opening is the Soul Stream (large beam attack): get behind it while it is casting and you are 100% safe! Remember to keep close, as it will try and leap across the room to get the distance it needs to cast its more damaging sorceries.

LANCE+FAITH MOVESET. Pretty simple to deal with. Get really close to it and circle to the right. Dodge everything (except Wrath of Gods) little right and towards it. Never attack after fast poke, only attack after its heavy attacks and charges.

CURVED SWORD+PYROMANCY MOVESET. This moveset appears intimidating and moves very fast, but hits far weaker than its straight sword moveset. Thankfully its attacks are normally preceded by a spinning wind-up and its attacks are telegraphed. Highly aggressive playstyles suit this moveset, and it is more of a DPS race than anything else. In this moveset it can use the Darkwood Grain Ring flip and use pyromancies such as Power Within, Great Combustion and more. Faster weapons here help but are not required, especially thrust weapons with the Leo Ring if you happen to have them. Best opening is after two heavy flaming slashes. It can do them at anytime but most often after it rolls towards the player. First horizontal slash comes out normally, the second is slightly delayed. The recovery time after the second slash is long enough to sneak in an attack and dodge away.

And finally, PHASE TWO, GREAT LORD MOVESET. Really simple to deal with. Stay away and fish for jumping attack and the running poke. Dodge the jump attack little left and towards it so that you end up behind it and it won't do a follow-up attack. Attack once and back away. Running poke is more difficult. Dodge immediately when you see the first running steps. If you identify the Sunlight Storm spell early, you can sprint towards it and attack safely few times before lighting rains down on you. In the event it casts Sunlight Storm, don't panic, but your dodge must be at the last possible second if you wish to safely avoid the attack. If you see the Soul of Cinder take a golf swing stance, roll away immediately and gain significant distance or you will be hit by its 5-hit combo. This moveset, averaged between its previous movesets, hits the hardest and the fastest. If you have beaten the final boss of Dark Souls, you will be at a great advantage.


In conjunction with everything else, below is a playbook of bits of knowledge that seperates the natural, intuitive stuff about the fight, and the complicated stuff that will get people killed. It's important to talk about this stuff, because then the fight becomes trial and error, and then the game is no longer fun and interesting, but instead it becomes a chore.

1. Soul of Cinder does not have a standard opening, but he generally opens up with a melee attack. Often, he will throw in a combo that uses delays to mess with timing, and it is better to just wait for a heavy attack, where he really throws his weight into the swing, for an opening. Try to roll in a diagonal direction, no more than just behind his left shoulder for an attack, and to avoid a counter-attack.


2. In the first phase, the player has no choice but to hit hard, because he will heal for about one third of his total HP, and also has a passive heal that will cut down your energy, level of interest, and estus flasks which will keep you in the game. 


3. Now about point 2-How does the player do that much damage? Of course, the player will know about leveling, but I guess on leveling, I can add that Dexterity often offers more AR points than Strength per level, so the player should, provided he picked a weapon with good STR and DEX scaling (C/C or better), put his leveling points into strength, or dexterity, depending on how high his AR in the desired category is going to be. However, strategies that tell the player to use a build are not very good, because often players sell off gear, or cannot reliably farm it out. That being said, if you want to rip apart the Soul of Cinder, you have to stay in such a range that you can roll right out of his first attack in his combo, so your timing is not messed up, and when he throws a heavy attack, you have about 2 seconds to hit him.


So tactically speaking, in what scenarios can the player hit Cinder? The answer to that is basically every scenario, except for the time he is casting toxic mist, using Power Within, and/or using his giant curved sword. His passive healing period is kind of iffy, but doable if those conditions are met, as well.


4. If you miss an opening, don't get greedy. Cinder has incredible stopping power and you will lose the estus you need for those end-fight clutch moments.


5. In the first phase, Cinder may turn his weapon into a giant curved sword. Absolutely do NOT try to engage him in this phase. It is short, his attacks are so frequent that you cannot dodge, and there is a chance he will cast the Power Within pyromancy. It is absolutely not worth it. 


6. Again, the Soul of Cinder, in many encounters, uses the Power Within pyromancy. That being said, the player may be inclined to think that is the time to fight him, because he will lose HP, but this negative effect does NOT happen, and Cinder will use this time to chase you, and throw attacks with varying delays and ranges to roll-catch you. DO NOT fight him during this phase, and just avoid him until he loses his buff.


7. Cinder likes to heal with a miracle in his first phase. Use this time to get in enough hits to cancel out the effect, and make sure to get in hits before he tries this again, or you could end up being set back. The first phase is all about hustle because of this healing tendency, so the player should be all about getting every single opening, and absolutely wrecking the Soul of Cinder in those openings.


8. Cinder likes to turn his weapon into a staff, and cast magic, in homage to a very cool mechanic in Bloodborne. Most of the time he will spawn homing spells that float above his head (the type of homing spell is not important, just know that they will home in on you), but for the sheer stopping power of his magic, just in case he doesn't, throw a double or triple consecutive roll, because he may cast a very big homing soul arrow that will be hard to dodge. The reason why this contributor says to throw a double-roll is because he may cast a bunch of homing spells that cannot be safely evaded with a single roll, and have quite precise homing that defeats single rolls. It may be possible to throw a triple roll, but the player may lose too much stamina. He also casts this huge persistent beam, but spamming roll through it will keep you from getting hurt, for some reason. Otherwise, it is easy to hit him uring this phase, but the player should know that he will take a single swing of a giant magic blade, roughly ten feet long, and try to swipe you in a circular motion. This is a good time to get in some hits, in consistency with part 6. 


9. If you look at Cinder, his sword is covered in flame. Don't just use this to see his attacks, because he haas specific body signalling for all of his attacks, except for when he casts all of his spells with his staff, save for his persistent beam, and one or two of his lightning bolt attacks. So of course, paying more attention is going to give better results, and that is just an absolute. 



10. If Cinder keeps killing you, one trick is to mess with different passive stacking effects, from rings, armor, and other equipment. This keeps the fight interesting. This contributor knows that armor in the game is good on fire defense, so allocating all your fire defense to your shield and armor is totally doable, because the player will only lose about 1% of HP when he takes a hit on his shield from Cinder's sword. This is a good way to buy time to do more damage without healing, which the next point covers more.


11. Focus on the aspects that are hard to do in the fight (this also cures repeated deaths), that the player is not invincible to, and only pop one Estus at a time. (For example, personally this contributor was able to avoid his great-spear phase like a boss, but absolutely could not handle soul spears in the beginning attempts.) This drastically kills off Cinder's ability to just eat through a player's Estus, for that end-game clutch phase where the player's mind may cause him to mess up out of stress. If you have about eight flasks when he is at half health in his second phase (Gwyn phase), then at that trajectory, you will win.


12. In his second phase, he will channel the essence of Gwyn, the first Lord of Cinder, but retain some of his own abilities. Stay at a distance of about twenty feet to bait a high-flying aerial sword attack to punish him. He doesn't heal in most encounters of this phase, so this is viable.


13. As soon as Cinder gets into his second stage he will stab his sword into the ground and when he does run so you can avoid the explosion afterwards. Also when he does keep running he will jump and slash at you instantly doing his 5 hit combo


14. If he happens to be healing in phase two, then his longest combo is six to eight hits. Use that as a measure of how difficult it is to avoid damage from him, and how many rolls to use in his attacks, if you have not learned his moves yet. The benefit of knowing this is that you now do not need to know everything about his moves!


15. This is not really a fight for fat-rolling tank builds. Take off some gear if you are over 70% encumbrance!


16. In both phases, Soul of Cinder uses variable timing to seek the player with his blade, and roll-catch, as well. Keep an eye on both his blade and body (consistent with a pevious tip) to counteract this. This will save you from all of his melee attacks!

Strategy 2 (Magic)

Phase I 

The Soul of Cinder is resistant to fire, so opt to use dark spells if you work with pyromancy (most preferably Black Fire Orb). Always keep your distance from the Soul of Cinder. The first phase will be the most difficult, especially in its first swordphase. Choose your time to cast carefully, try always to use your spell after it has attacked. Still, your first priority is keeping your distance. Doing so will allow you to attack it while it is missing its attacks at you. During its scimitar/pyromancy phase, you will have ample opportunities to cast spells while it is casting its own pyromancies. Just beware of being hit by its own fireball. Its spear/miracle phase is arguably the easiest. Just beware of its spear charge and continue keeping your distance, and its spinning attack will miss you completely, giving you the chance to lob some spells at it. During its sorcery phase, beware of casting at the same time as it, unless it is using spells that are slower than yours and leave you the chance to dodge. Soul Stream is a good time to deal damage. 

Phase II

During Phase II the boss will have considerably less health, making this portion quicker. An attack you need to be careful of is its jumping slash. This is very fast and will close the distance to you almost instantly. Whenever it wants to do the five-hit-combo, it will raise up its greatsword and charge up the flame for a brief second, which allows you to evade. If you manage to evade being hit during its five-hit combo, it will simply continue doing the combo at nothing. This is a great chance to deal damage, but be careful not to get hit, since any hit during the combo will combo you.

Strategy 3 Rakuyo's Melee Tips


Stab attack (Attack, this is a great opening)

Fast swings (tricky, this can be part of a 3 hit combo, it's safest to attack after the combo ends)

Fiery strong attack (this can go 3 ways)

  1. It slashes upwards once. This move resembles the Dark Sword strong attack and has great tracking and range (Block)
  2. 3 slashes upwards  (Roll & Counter)
  3. It holds its sword and turns around for a large swing (Roll & Counter)



(Roll & Counter)

This is a great time to deal some damage with your melee character. 

It can use Farron Hail, Soul Spear, Soul Greatsword or Soul Stream but all these attacks are easy to roll under and counter.

Without its blue aura, Soul of Cinder can't summon Crystal Homing Soulmasses and it's very vulnerable as it has no fast attacks.

Crystal Homing Soulmasses have some AI, they are reluctant to attack when your shield is up. They get much more active when you lower your guard.

Its blue aura can last beyond this phase, but if you stagger it, the aura will disappear.



Fast stabs (Block/Roll) These come in too fast to get a hit in with most weapons. The combo can last for 3 stabs.

Strong attack (Circle/Roll & Counter, this is a great opportunity to attack)

Charge (Get behind it, Circle/Roll --> Attack)

Halberd Spin (Roll towards its back --> Attack)

Wrath of the God (Perfect Roll --> ranged attack or heal)


Curved Sword

(Ranged attacks and blocking)

In this mode it is most vulnerable to ranged attacks, like spells or Kukris.

Good openings are when it's casting Fireball, Poison Cloud, Power Within or Combustion

You can also hit it when it's coming at you but it may roll.

The best way to deal with its melee attacks is to block and step backwards.

Sneak in a hit after its combos end.

Power Within may last beyond this phase but the spell will fade if you stagger it.

It is most likely to parry the player while recovering from being staggered in this phase. It is advisable to avoid melee attacks as it stands up.


Lord of Cinder

This is phase 2 and it'll have less health than in phase 1.

Its best attack is a large combo followed by an explosion.

You must never block this attack as it's a real guard breaker.

It's clearly signaled by it holding its sword straight up.

If you see it, try and get away from it. If you break away you can sneak in some Kukris while it's doing the combo.

It can't keep doing that move but its other moves are still good guardbreakers.

The best strategy is to Roll & Counter as much as possible and keep away from its signature attack.

Its kicks, grabs, and smashes are particularly easy to roll under and get in a hit.

Simple Cheese Tactic for Phase 2

After you successfully get past Phase 1, Phase 2 can be cheesed.

Pretty much every single one of the Soul of Cinder's attacks can be avoided by holding up your shield and simply backpeddling towards to the right, while occasionally sprinting or rolling whenever he fires lightning at you.

To beat him easily, stay at a medium-far distance from him, and patiently wait for him to eventually perform his massive slash combo. The instant he finishes it, sprint towards him, get a few hits in, and run back out.

Rinse and repeat until he's dead. It's as easy as that.



First Phase (4 Stage Moveset)
Attack Name Attack Description
Strength Moveset

Wields a straight sword and attacks with sweeping/slashing/thrusting moves.

Dexterity Moveset

Wields a curved sword and casts pyromancies:

  • Fire Orb
  • Poison Mist
  • Power Within
  • Combustion

It also appears to be able to parry you in this phase

Intelligence Moveset

Wields a catalyst and casts various types of spells:

  • Farron Hail
  • Homing Crystal Soulmass
  • Crystal Soul Spear
  • Soul Stream
  • Soul Greatsword 
Faith Moveset

Wields a Greatlance and casts miracles:

  • Med Heal
  • Wrath of the Gods
Second Phase (Great Lord Moveset)
Attack Name Attack Description
5-Hit Combo

Launches the player into the air and hits them 4 times, then strikes the sword into the ground for an AOE damage.

Command Grab

Grabs the player, lifts them into the air and creates an explosion. Inflicts heavy damage.

Leaping Slash

Jump towards the player and perform an attack, inflicts heavy damage.


Performs a front stomp kick, attempt to break the player's guard.

Sunlight Spear

Throws a Sunlight Spear towards the player.

Spear Storm

Throws a Sunlight Spear upwards, which splits into a large amount of Sunlight Spears.

Sunlight Stake

Throws a Sunlight Spear directly downward.


Lore Theories

  • The Soul of Cinder is the deific manifestation of every person that linked the fire, which is why it uses player movesets in the first phase to emulate every player that chose the Link the Fire ending in Dark Souls. In phase 2, it uses Gwyn's moveset out of desperation at having been bested in all of its previous fighting styles.
  • "Since Lord Gwyn, the first Lord of Cinder, many exalted lords have linked the First Flame, and it is their very souls that have manifested themselves as defender of the flame." - Soul of the Lords.


  • Soul of Cinder attacks are connected with 7 types of damages, what makes creating a proper build difficult.  
  • One of few bosses in series that is capable of parrying and riposting player. 
  • The first time you fight Soul of Cinder, it will do a specific pattern to show you all 4 movesets, but not in one specific order. During 2nd, 3rd, etc. attempt he may not use some fighting patterns.
  • During second phase, flame explosion is capable of deflecting spells like Great Soul Dregs. Strangely, it will not deflect throwable items like Kukri.


  • While the second phase is on, a rebooted version of Gwyn, Lord of Cinder's bossfight soundtrack from Dark Souls can be heard.
  • In the first phase, its weapon switchings are similiar to weapon transformations in Bloodborne.
  • The flowers surrounding the First Flame are very similar to the flowers found in the Hunter's Dream (Bloodborne) and in The Ringed City.
  • The Soul of Cinder is available as figure for Funko Pop line and Dark Souls 3 Collector's Edition - in order to avoid spoilers - under the name of "Red Knight".
  • Few of Soul of Cinder abilities mirror Nameless King (Dark Souls III), Gwyn (Dark Souls I), and Manus (Dark Souls I: Artorias of the Abyss).
  • Appears at the very end of the intro cutscene dragging a corpse, the player assumes the same position it does when receiving the flames from the firekeeper after placing all cinders of the lords in their thrones.

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    • Anonymous

      17 Oct 2021 18:26  

      oh my god this boss is so cool, i cannot even get mad at dying, i mean look at the amount of spectacular attacks he has AND HE CAN TURN HIS SWORD INTO A ULTRA GREATSWORD, CURVED GREATSWORD AND STAFF, HE IS SO COOL OH MY GOD I WISH I COULD EVER BE THAT COOL.

      • Anonymous

        17 Oct 2021 16:58  

        Will forever be one of the most epic bossfights in video game history unless Elden Ring can pull something better which I am hoping for

        • Anonymous

          08 Oct 2021 01:53  

          if you have already defeated this boss, and want to help others defeat him, transpose his soul for the sunlight spear. it's insane against him. doesn't deplete too much HP, but it's still an easy win with it.

          • 05 Oct 2021 20:36  

            Lightning Arrow does a lot of damage to him and is fast enough to fire off consistently through all of his changing movesets. I wasn't expecting the last boss to die so easily -- when he went down on phase 2 I was expecting a phase 3 but he was just dead. This was my first playthrough and I did all the DLC bosses first, so maybe I was just conditioned to harder fights by that point. Either way, I had a great time playing Dark Souls 3. I think it's my favorite of the trilogy.

            See you in Elden Ring!

            • Anonymous

              04 Oct 2021 01:42  

              I know this will be obvious but if you have a lothric knight greatsword and level 30 faith you can do the lightning blade spell on your sword and during the scorcery attacks you can use vow of silence after the lightning blade spell and basically he can’t attack you while you do a lot of damage to him.

              • Anonymous

                13 Sep 2021 10:03  

                the soul when he pulls out the curved sword is not to be messed with i just run away from him until he swaps weapon

                • Anonymous

                  10 Sep 2021 17:28  

                  New player guide: First, don’t underestimate him. He’s like Gundyr in that his attacks are easy to spot, and you can dodge pretty easily, but he has high hp and some deadly combos that can wipe even a tank player out if you are too slow even once. Fortunately, there is an easy strategy to destroying him. First, go to Central Irithyll bonfire, and kill the pontiff knights up the stairs. Then loot a PKCS. Upgrade to +5 and then ember up and use dried finger then destroy the fat Casul sweats who invade not knowing you’ve got a PKCS. Wreck them with the powerfull weapon art and the lightning quick r1 and parry them with ease with pkcs in off hand then riposte with your pkcs. be forewarned you will lose all your souls buying more dung pie for pooping on the fat scrubs that you kill. when you’ve killed so many dark spirit that you get bored with pkcs expert-level move set then go to soul of cinder and poop on his noob @ss after your pkcs anillates him. pkcs is best weapon gaming history and youll know it when you point down Fighter Pl like us top-tier pkcs users love doing in offtime from ng+ times 5000 because game is easy for us. first Elden ring users will all be Casul Aldrich faithfull who rage quit ds3 after getting trashed and pointed down by so many pkcs user.

                  • Anonymous

                    08 Sep 2021 20:12  

                    Despite being resistant to fire damage, CBV quite literally melts his healthbar
                    That **** is OP and carried me through the latter half of my pyro playthrough

                    • Anonymous

                      07 Sep 2021 13:15  

                      Probably the most fun boss in the game. Is very interesting fighting not knowing what the enemy will use next. And it's not "almost impossible" for a new player to beat it, like Nameless King is.

                      • Anonymous

                        30 Aug 2021 14:17  

                        Most fair yet challenging boss in the game in terms of balance, there are very little 'bullsh*t' attacks like Dancer's endless spin attack or Aldrich's instakill arrow rain. It is just a test of skill like Gundyr, and all attacks are well telegraphed. I recommend a fast weapon, UGS or Great Hammers are not so great for this fight unless you have mastered them. I used a +10 Heavy Flamberge to beat every boss in the game, and it's my go-to weapon of choice for STR builds.

                        My biggest tips: Be as aggressive as possible, he staggers after a few hits. The longer the fight takes, the more likely he is to surprise you with a new move you've never seen before. Stay close to him at all times except when you want to heal. Do not panic estus immediately when your health is low, wait for an opening, dodge and then drink up (unless you are far away enough).

                        • Anonymous

                          22 Aug 2021 19:44  

                          trust me when i say this black knight sword is so overpowered for this boss fight at +5 ng+2 it wrecks him i beat him using this chad weapon with no help. This weapon will carry you through ng+ so don't be afraid to use ur slab on it

                          • Anonymous

                            22 Aug 2021 19:40  

                            Only dumb fat Casuls would use such a trash weapon!
                            PKCS is so much better!
                            Real Pros and skilled players only ever use PKCS, the best weapon gaming history!

                            • Anonymous

                              19 Aug 2021 14:40  

                              When it uses homing magic orbs, you should actually be staying close instead of far. The magic orbs will likely miss if you just strafe to the right while close up as they won't gain speed.

                              • Anonymous

                                17 Aug 2021 01:28  

                                I am currently on a "SL-1 no upgrade" challenge run and finally beat this absolute nightmare of a boss after countless attempts.
                                In case you also want to try such a challenge, here are some things that helped me beat this boss:

                                Phase 1:
                                Use weapons with bleed effect:
                                - SoC is only resistant to bleed and not immune
                                - The bleed proc usually greatly exceeds the damage you would have dealt with regular attacks in the same number of hits (+0 weapon damage is just abysmal).
                                - I highly recommend the bandit knife (needs hunter or carthus milk ring), as it is very fast and consumes little stamina.
                                - Don't forget about carthus rouge.

                                Get a feeling when you will stagger SoC:
                                - Staggering SoC will cancel any of its buffs (i.e. healing, the magic orbs and power within).
                                - The most problematic buffs are the homing magic orbs and the heal, as the former will be very hard to deal with if SoC changes into any other type and the heal is just so damn frustrating.
                                - Therefore, if you are going against the magic or spear type SoC, keep in mind, that the buff could happen any time and thus holding back on some of your attacks can allow you to stagger SoC right out of the buff.
                                - To give an idea, it usually takes 10 - 15 hits to stagger SoC (with a straight sword/bandit knife)

                                If you cannot reliably dodge EVERY attack, don't be afraid to use a shield:
                                - The dragon crest shield (needs knight ring) helped me a lot to avoid heavy damage from mistakes or surprising attacks (e.g. that sudden horizontal spear swing)

                                Phase 2:
                                Switch to another weapon, e.g. the broadsword, as bleed procs may not be worth the risk this far into the boss

                                Playing very passive is the safest thing to do:
                                - only attack once or twice after a jump and then roll away to avoid the potentially upcoming combo
                                - the best attack opportunity is during the lightning barrage windup. The barrage is usually preceeded by SoC making a jump backwards. If you notice that, run towards SoC, use a gold pine bundle and make some easy hits.

                                Hope this helps

                                • Anonymous

                                  09 Aug 2021 17:19  

                                  I recently beat this (insert many swear words) boss in a SL 1 no upgrade challenge run.
                                  While the fight in itself is brutal but doable, one thing that really gave me trouble was when SoC cast the magic orb or the healing buff and changed the "type".
                                  In case you are also struggling with this, maybe the following strategy could be of use (it sure helped me out alot):

                                  TLDR: "Get a feeling when you will stagger SoC".

                                  The reason behind it is, that everytime you sucessfully stagger SoC, it loses all its buffs (Power Within, healing buff and the magic thingies).
                                  Therefore, if you are going against the magic or spear type SoC, keep in mind, that the buff could happen any time and thus holding back on some of your attacks can allow you to stagger SoC right out of the buff.
                                  In my attempts, it usually took 10-15 hits to stagger.

                                  While this strategy is not really that important in normal playthroughs it sure pays off in the +0 weapon categories (where I highly recommend a bleed weapon against SoC) .

                                  • Anonymous

                                    01 Aug 2021 00:00  

                                    DO NOT use the Dragonslayer Greataxe for this fight, even though Cinder is weak to lightning. Your mentally challenged character is incapable of landing a single hit with the thing if Cinder is so much as breathing. I still beat him first try with it, but I swear my character missed half his hits at point blank range.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      27 Jul 2021 19:52  

                                      Who the **** wants to stay forever in a forsaken place alone facing a bonfire? The purpose of this game should be the world is forcing the player to link the fire but we don't want and have to fight our way out and stop ourselves to become a stupid candlelight wig.
                                      With that said, the 4 lord of cinders are actually correct not to be stupid to be forever alone facing a bonfire but the players are ****ers who come to ruin them. In Dark Souls games, the players are always the ****ers who go ruin people peaceful world by killing them.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        25 Jul 2021 18:40  

                                        I noticed that some attack hitboxes during the spear phase feel kinda off (i.e. getting hit despite being in a 90 degree angle to the spear jab).
                                        Could this be a Dark Souls 2 easter egg?

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