Lord of Cinder in Dark Souls 3 is a title given to those who were mighty enough to Link the Flame.

Lords of Cinder have parts of their bodies seemingly alit, in a similar fashion to the player's Lord of Cinder Mode(Embered).

At the ending of the game, the player can choose to Link the Flame himself.

Lord of Cinder Information

 Dark Souls 3's story revolves around the five Lords of Cinder, the five being:

The last four are required bossfights.

Lore Speculation

  • Unkindled are failed Lords of Cinder, succeeding in linking the flame, but too weak to survive the burst of fire.
  • Lords of Cinder cannot Link the Flame on their own, and all five are needed.
  • The Lords of cinder have linked the fire long ago, but it still fades and it was deemed "not enough". The new order was to have all 5 of them link it again, this time together for a stronger sacrifice.
    Only Ludleth of Courland was willing to make the sacrifice. He had his legs removed should his will waver, as the first time he linked the fire must had been traumatic. No one else wants to link the flame. It might be that they barely survived the first time or it hurts like hell.
  • The champion of ash, along with many other unkindled are awoken from death, possibly by the fire's call, to bring all mighty Lords back, dead or alive.
  • Despite having served as the fuel for the First Flame for this long of a time the Lords of Cinder still retain a good amount of the fire within their body. This aspect in itself is somehow standing against the purpose of “sacrificing oneself to prolong the inevitable” as it implies that this power is taken from the already dying First Flame and thereby weakening it even further.
    This in fact could be the very reason the Player Character has to find the Lords of Cinder, slay them and thereby retake their souls to then feed them to the First Flame again by Linking it.
  • The young prince Lothric is being called a Lord of Cinder, even though he is implied to have never actually linked the First Flame. He is also not shown to have any of the fire powers the other lords use in their second boss phase. All the fire attacks used are stemming from his older brothers sword (which got its effect from Demon fire).

We are left to speculate further

 




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    • Anonymous

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      LONG MAY THE DARK SOULS COMMUNITY LIVE

      • Anonymous

        Hello DS3 player, I am come to you for a little favour, and I will carry this message to everywhere in DS3 community.
        There is a glitch that allows you to summon white sign mad phantom in Gael’s Arena (Credit to Dashingsaint), if you keep Shira alived while she invade you (you can escape her simply sprint out her aggro range), you won’t trigger gael boss cutscene, and then you could put down you purple summon white sign or summon other white purple.
        Thus, a new fight club is founded, an arena in a long lost dessert under the sunset sky which sprinkle with fainted galaxy.
        If you’re watching this, kindly please help me share this and invite any ds3 enthusiast you known to this new fight club, your little effort would be much appreciated.
        SL25+2, SL40+4, SL60+6, SL72+8, SL90+10, SL125 Meta, SL 351++, all SL range are acceptable.
        Welcome to the Gael’s Sunset Arena, the most beautiful map in the entire series, the last arena at the End of World.
        I will await you there, in the End of the World, and we shall fight eternal, shiny and incandescence.
        LONG MAY THE DARK SOULS COMMUNITY LIVE

        • Anonymous

          This entire Lore Speculation section seems wrong in assuming the Lords of Cinder survived their linkings, based on the very intro cutscene for the game. Further evidence to this, is that we have heard nothing about them between them Linking the First Flame and the start of the game, which is very strange for someone who "saved the world", wouldn't you think? Surely, if they were somehow powerful enough to survive, these would have to be more powerful than Gwyn himself in his prime (as he could not survive the act), and surely we would have heard of their exploits since.

          The intro cutscene, as I understand it, lays it out like this:

          The Lords of Cinder do not seem to be ones who survived the linking the First Flame; they died doing so, just like ol' Lord Gwyn himself who then eventually Hollowed despite his conviction, hence why they need to be revived to do it again ("unearthing the old Lords of Cinder from their graves"). But they don't want to burn alive again, so they instead retreat to their homes (which are now conveniently moving closer to one another).

          The revival of the Unkindled, likely those who either died before trying to link or died without causing the First Flame to renew (as they are "nameless, accursed undead, unfit even to be Cinder"), are brought back in a last desperate attempt to convince old Lords, because that is all the world deems them good for at this point, or because the world is now desperate enough to let anyone have another go at it.

          • Anonymous

            I solved the most unknown glitch in DS3, the dark sign sun permanently disappearing in certain locations at random.

            • Anonymous

              If I'm not wrong, the Lords of Cinder across the entire series goes as follows: Gwyn Chosen Undead (Maybe) Burnt Ivory King Bearer of the Curse Ludleth of Courtland Abyss Watchers Aldritch Yhorm Lothric Soul of Cinder (If he counts, considering he's all of the above)

              • Anonymous

                Imagine if DS 3 allowed you to carry forward your save from DS 1 or DS 2, and you can fight a phantom, buffed up version of your character as one of the Lords of Cinder bosses

                • Anonymous

                  One of the four fighting forms the Soul of Cinder takes seems really similar to someone from Carthus would do. The one where it wields a curved sword (similar to the skeletons' weapons in the Catacombs) and it uses pyromancy to empower itself while breathing out poison to harm the player. This is how the soldiers in Carthus would operate as they really didn't have a 'noble' way to battle and would do anything to achieve victory like their High Lord Wolnir. Overall, I believe there was once a REALLY strong warrior or king that ruled Carthus and was either forced or willing to link the flame as a Lord of Cinder. These are just patterns I noticed and is really just food for thought. .

                  • Anonymous

                    It should be noted that there are always 4 great souls that u need to gather to link the flame cinders in here Abyss watchers are standing for Gravelord Nito Aldrich for four kings which are linked to Gwyn Yhorm the giant to bed of chaos and witch of izalith Lothric, younger prince to Seath the scaleless Ludleth of courland might be linked to the pigmy which can explain why his so small compared to other lords

                    • Anonymous

                      I highly doubt Unkindled are "failed Lords of Cinder" especially as the Knight's backstory is explicitly given as having collapsed from exhaustion and they are Unkindled. Guess that's why "speculation" was put up there, but it's more of a groundless theory that belongs in the comments section.

                      • Anonymous

                        Another important thing to consider with Lothric's status: the engraving on the back of his designated throne reads, "Holy King of Lothric, Last Hope of his Line." Prince Lothric was not originally intended to link the Fire, but whoever the prior king was (Oceiros?), they never followed their destiny, leaving the duty in the hands of Prince Lothric, even though he was born frail and likely incapable of linking the Fire on his own.

                        • Anonymous

                          "The flame is fading, and when the fire is low the majestic pudding of the lords is ready to be served, and they all want a spoonful, the little pointy hats, and the big boys too." -Matthew Shezman DØrk SØuls, Praise the ☼!

                          • Anonymous

                            A Devourer of Gods is a God?

                            Notice: When You defeat Aldrich,it says that You get a Lord of Cinder,but I'm pretty sure that a Lord is a God.

                            • Anonymous

                              I find it interesting, that the lords of cinder all have a connection to the four lords.
                              Firstly we have the twins and Gwyn, being monarchs of their respective kingdoms, having a connection to the linking of the fire and a close relationship to a paledrake(Seath and oceiros). It's also implied, that Gwynevere is the prince's mother.
                              Yhorm and the Witch are both Lords whose Cities have been destroyed by an unnatural flame. Also both cities are protected by hooded women and lava monsters(demons and gargoyles.)
                              With Aldritch and Nito you just have to look at them to see connections. Both are compiled of other people's bodyparts(pus of man for aldritch and skeletons for Nito) Also both have a joinable covenant, despite you having to kill them later.
                              The abysswatchers and the furtive pigmy are both connected to the dark. The Furtive pygmy split his soul and gave it to all of humanity, while the watchers are one soul shared by an entire company of knights. Manus is implied to be the pygmy and Farron is implied to be Oolacile, the place Manus got killed.
                              I find that to be an interesting continuation of Ds2's reincarnation theme.
                              I find it very interesting, that

                              • Anonymous

                                You will need to go back to the vorht bonfire then go up to the doors above, be warned it's the dancer boss fight but after that you show have the last soul soon enough

                                • Anonymous

                                  I've killed all bosses except for the final one. I've placed their ashes on the thrones but nothing happens at the bonfire. Do I need to place ashes on lothrics throne? Can anyone help. Gamer tag
                                  Tru Karma 08

                                  • Anonymous

                                    This is just a theory I had about The Abyss Watchers, Yhorm, and Aldrich. What if part of them are consumed by the Abyss? Sadly there is no strong evidence on the whole enemies with red eyes are part of the abyss buttttttt the man of pus have the glowing red eyes. So enemies with the red eyes may be have some form of the abyss. The Abyss Watchers share the same blood/soul and the Abyss Watcher with the red eyes attack the other ones. Which is why they are constantly fighting each other to drive the abyss out. Aldrich went crazy and started eating people when the abyss took over. Which is why he bloated and turned into the black sludge. Yhorm is the toughest with this but he does have the red eyes. He is also the guy who gave the Storm Ruler that could kill him to anyone who doubted him and to Siegward to keep a promise. Yhorm to me sounds like a guy who would keep the fire going unless something happened to him like the abyss taking over. But that's just my theory, not sure if anyone else thinks that

                                    • Anonymous

                                      "It might be that they barely survived the first time or it hurts like hell."This site needs some serious cleanup.

                                      • the obvious answer to who the Soul of Cinder is, is that he is every dark souls player + Gwyn. He changes his playstyle, using a staff and casting sorceries, to using a curved sword and doing backflips. This indicates that he is changing his build and playstyle like all the dark souls players do. After one build is dead, another rises to protect the flame. In the second phase, He goes back to normal but this time with Gwyns music, indicating that the Ashen one killed all of the dark souls players inside the Soul of Cinder and the only person left to protect the flame is Gwyn himself.

                                        • Anonymous

                                          I suppose The Soul of Cinder is gwyn , And Lothric's Younger prince is the bearer of the Curse Because he didn't linked the first flame After what Aldia told him about the curse of the world cycle , And yhorm is The Giant Lord from DS2 .

                                          • Anonymous

                                            Unkindled are from the failed undead in general. Not the failed lords of cinder. They come from the unkindled ashes of undead. The sacrifices in the undead villige are because the undead are trying to kill the ashen ones as well as the undead marked with the sigil. The hatred between undead and the ashen ones is because the ashen ones represent and bring to light the failures of the undead. You don't have the dark sigil because you are born from fire. Fire is always in conflict to the dark. Undead are not cursed by the dark but simply come from the dark. They are cursed because of their potential to link the fire but they are in fact children of the dark which is why Londo is able to exist.

                                            • Anonymous

                                              Would it be worth noting that characters from other games are also Lords of Cinder? Gwyn was the first, then the Chosen Undead*, then the Bearer of the Curse*, and now the Lords in Ds3.(* Potentially)

                                              • Anonymous

                                                You gain all of these effects after defeating the first boss before the shrine evern, and can activate the effect using an ember any time after

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  I experienced a slight bug. So i fought against the Twins, got the lordsoul, went to the shrine and i couldn´t lay it down. I moved around for about half an hour and finally i reloaded the save game an only then i could place it. Kind of weird...

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    I don't believe it's appropriate to refer to embered mode as 'lord of cinder' mode, especially after the page just finishes saying that it's unclear whether or not the player was a lord of cinder prior to the ending.

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      I killed my third lord of cincer (Aldrich, Devourer of Gods) and died simultaneously. I got the cut screen with someone talking about the prince of lothric but when the loading finished i got a brief vision of a bonfire and then the death noise/reload sequence happened and I reloaded at the Anor Londo bonfire...did i break the game? How will i get to wherever the game was going to transport me?

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        "Solaire of Astora, a Lord of Cinder: It is very likely that Solaire is/was a Lord of Cinder. This is because Lord's of Cinder are considered those who linked the flame, and Hidetaka Miyazaki stated that in the case that Solaire is kept alive throughout the game, he goes on to link the flame in his own world, effectively making him a Lord of Cinder."This is complete bull*****. First off you're assuming that lords of cinder are people who have linked the flame. This is not the case, and for that reason alone this paragraph should be deleted for being misleading. We can see this based solely off of Prince Lothric, who is opposed to linking the flame, yet is still considered a lord of cinder. In addition, how exactly would Aldrich have linked the flame, given that he is a giant sludge monster obsessed with the dark?

                                                        • So.. I've been thinking a lot about the process that needs to take place in order for this all to make sense, and what I've come up with thus far is this:Could it be that you have to inherit the ability to link the fire, and it's not just something you can walk up and do? That would explain why, in the first game, you had to defeat the (presumably) resurrected Lord Gwyn. You had to inherit the ability to link the fire from Gwyn, and later in Dark Souls 2 and 3 you have to inherit it from the most recent Lords of Cinder? When you think about it, the Throne Watcher and Throne Defender could potentially fill the role of former Lord's of Cinder. I believe the lore on them is that they've been waiting on someone to take the throne, so who knows. What really has me confused with all of this is: Can a former Lord of Cinder only be resurrected once after they link the flame? That seems to be the case, otherwise the Shrine would be absolutely stuffed if the amount of firekeepers are anything to go by. But again, if this is the case, did the five Lords of Cinder in DS3 link the flame in unison?

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