Pyromancer's Parting Flame | Dark Souls 3 Wiki

How well does this thing's lingering flames pair with something like toxic mist or poison mist? If casting up close will the flames deal significant enough damage to warrant it worth using compared to the base flame or no?

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I didn't understand what this thing's art did for the longest time...

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So the parting flame has to be on the left hand to use the special WA? I’m sure because on the right hand he does a punch instead.

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Why doesn a damn pyroflame needs a requirement from strength? It's really just for messing with people with no vaild reason at all. I wanted to make a full pyro build with no points put in strength and dexterity, using them for attunement instead, but looks like I have to waste 3 points on strength and miss out on my 6th slot on my lv125 character, because dumb reasons.

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This flame only outdamages regular Pyromancy Flame if you are using it in melee range, mostly with Great Combustion. Initial hit is always fire, meaning it is best used in a fire clutch setup. Using Dark Pyromancies with dark clutch will worsen the output.

Though there are many enemies that are open to fire, so it wont be a problem other than a few bosses such as Demon Prince.

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just to make sure, this thing has the same spell buff of the normal flame but has trials? if so i would still use my regular flame too buff my weapon with carthus flame arc, since i use that catalys only for that

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So just to clarify, the only drawback of not meeting the strength requirement is not being able to use the weapon art?

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Man I have yet to beat someone using this. I’m surprised it’s not more common among pyros. It seems like all of them just use Demon Scar. But whenever I fight someone with this thing I can’t get close. They just combo black flame into itself and melt me

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I wonder if this hideous spouse could be the reference to Darkmoon Knightess. Cuz her armour set described that about hiding her hideous form.

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HIDEOUS WIFE

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the most useful pyromancy item

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lol, ugly wife fire

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Oh boy I wonder if he's gonna use black flame

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pyromancer's farting flame

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So the trail won't work with Fire Whip?

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I use the normal pyromancy flame and never used the WA with it, should I switch+upgrade to the parting flame?
I'm on the Ringed City DLC, finished everything else, so is it worth it right now or should I not bother?

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Can someone tell me the difference between +10 and +9 versions? At 40/40 int/fth it has the same spelbuff both in +9 and +10. Is it worth spending titanite slab?

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Someone know how to do the unlimited estus glitch?

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G9 does it and he's much much better than you'll ever be... but at least you're "honourable"

maybe you can pretend you are better

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Why.....why does it need 15 STR??????

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damn, shame I'm not strong enough to hold this weightless flame in my hand

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The extra damage is super effective with Great Combustion. This combo is like Dark Hand levels of power in the early game, and I've gotten through Dancer, Mad King, and Champion Gundyr with just that, Chloranthy Ring, and 4 Ashen Estus. Take Clutch, Witch, and Swamp ring if you don't want to kys, though.

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Additionally if you do not meet the STR requirement of the flame, trying to Black Flame the Twin Dragon Greatshield my character does the stumbling animation (glancing). Sample size of 1 so take it with a grain of salt or test yourself.

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after being able to refill my estus as often as i want im staying a lot more harder in invasions thx myiazaki.

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dude this could have been so much more useful if it also restored ashen estus

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Soooooooo it says on here that there is a flame trail that does extra damage when u cast certain pyromancy spells but now that I mention it. I dont even see this flame trail when I cast a pyromancy. I tried Chaos Bed and a few others but no "flame trail"
Anyone else have this problem

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Use this with Ring of the Evil Eye +3 as a phantom and you've got so much more healing. That single estus charge is the difference between life and death in PvP sometimes. Definitely my fav pyro flame, and it helps that it has the highest sacred flame damage with that spell being very FP cost effective. I kinda want to try an Arstors Spear build with Parting Flame just for the insane healing you'd get from fighting PvP. If you're playing as a white phantom and you're not using the demons scar this is the pyro flame for you. Can easily get 5+ extra estus if you clear the entire ringed city with your host. Maybe even slap some more regen into the build if you think you're able to get away with it. Can also be useful if you enjoy fighting invaders as a host, ganking or otherwise.

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In case you were wondering, you can't use the WA to get extra max estus when summoned as a phantom. I've also tested to see if Flame Fan makes use of the fire trail, and no, it doesn't.

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If I switch for a simple shield do I loose the charge ? Do the conter reset every time I switch ?

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Could you have this in left hand and normal pyro flame in right hand, choosing which hand to use depending if casting range or melee pyromancies?

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Would have been nice had the WA generated blue estus

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It's worth noting that using this without meeting the requirements is not without a disadvantage. It bounces off of shields when using dark flame, for instance... could matter in both pve and pvp.

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Dunnels wife was crossbreed priscilla. Their daughter is the painting lady. Priscilla was killed and stuffed in a sack hid behind father ariandel

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If you were to rank the Pyromancy Flame, this Flame, and the Demon's Scar on spell buffs, which is best and which is worst?

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Lol his wife left him

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If you use this glitch to recover all your estus after an invader made you chug it all down, you are a cheater. You might as well just turn on cheat engine. Play legitimately or go offline.

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You can use the WA by just doing it quickly you can restore 10 estus if you have the mana

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Note that the flame casts slower

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Does the flame trail also increase the heavy attack/punch damage?

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Unless you're a dedicated Pyromancer, I can see a few problems losing a hand to have this thing equiped for WA. Also, having it equiped/activated for 12 kills is a novelty at best. It's Spell rating is lower and consumptions higher than a regular Flame so figuring out if this's for you is simple. If you Cast at range/buff you don't need this, if you're a dedicated Pyromancer at close range and willing to give up a hand then this might be for you.

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I don't see this thing a whole lot, though in my opinion it's in many ways alot better than the normal pyro flame. Sure it doesn't get as high scaling, but on my 40/40 build it's only a difference of about 15 spell buff. This could bring down some high damage spells 45-60 damage, but mostly the lava trail it leaves often deals about the same damage I'd lose. But for weaker spells, it's almost always a damage gain. Secondly, the lava pool will proc even if the spell is blocked or rolled. This can stun people even if the main spell misses, making combos easier and more reliable and atleast a little damage more assured. In PvE, this thing's weapon art far outclasses the normal pyromancy flame by a mile. You're going to want to allotte more ashen flasks, so naturally your normal flasks run low, and this helps cure some attrition issues. I often find myself running pvp content with only 8 or fewer normal flasks, and never running out of healing. Perhaps this thing is too hard to find, truth be told I've beaten the game about 100 times on various ng+ levels amonsgst 25 characters, and never bothered to find this thing till I specifically played a pyromancer from start to finish.

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I wonder if there’s mistranslation in the name, meaning it should be “Pyromancer’s Burial Flame” rather then “Parting.” A parting flame is a old ritual tradition in lighting a candle before a window every night to wish loved ones who are a very long ways away from home a safe journey upon their return. A burial flame however is a candle and/or oil lamp left upon a deceased loved ones grave to wish their spirit a safe journey to the after life and in some traditions to ward off evil who would wish to do harm to the spirit of the deceased. It would make more sense if this was a burial flame for it was left on the body of a deceased loved one to which it turned into a greater flame and is able to channel what looks like spirit whisps into the hereafter, to which is rewarded with estus. Also, it would give some relevance to the high strength requirement for the user of the flame are being filled with the spirit echos of the dead, who become very heavy and to the point where user dose a ritual gesture of sendoff and in sends them off to wherever.

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If I have this flame equipped without the strength required, will it still store echoes? If that's the case I could simply equip the knights ring for when I want to use the WA after sufficient kills.

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if u dont have 15 strong then u wont be able to deshield in one hit of black flame.

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Does anyone on ps4 have a copy they would be willing to trade?

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Someone please translate that broken english about not meeting the strength requirements, holy crap... it makes 0 sense, make it short and too the point, don't care about other catalysts.

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is this better than pyromancy flame

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I think the Weapon Art for this now stacks. I was doing co-op helping a player get through an area and then unlock the short cut, then when we got to the boss fog it looked like he spammed the weapon art for the flame a good 5 times in a row and got five flasks in a row. Can anyone else confirm that this?

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can someone please post more comments about ,,bouncing off,, there is only half page about ,,bouncing off,, i get a feeling like no one cares about ,,bouncig off,, when you dont have 15 str so please more about ,,bouncing off,,

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40 int/fth + this + black flame + witch's ring = a lot of blasted off faces in PvP

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does the extra melee flame work with Fire Surge? if so then wow

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Would you still collect death echoes if you have this in your second weapon slot and change to your first? Like if you had a sword in one slot and the flame in the other, and switched to the sword, would you still get the echoes?

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Question, if I have this on my left hand weapon slot and I two-hand a weapon, will it still collect death echoes?

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This wiki is WRONG there IS a penalty for not making the strength requirement and it is that you CANNOT use the Parting Flame weapon art without it. Get your life together fextralife.

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does this retore ashen estus as well? I never used it so I dont know

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This page needs to remove the bit about no penalty from not meeting the strength requirements and mention that the weapon art is unusable without the stats. The WA is useless in PvP but for PvE you can get a few estus refills as you work through a stage, which might be worth it for some people.

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if you do not meet the required strength and during a cast you touch a raised shield you will bounce off and the spell will not cast

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Just tested this:if you have the glowy-ness around you showing you can use the weapon art, switch to two hand and switch back, you can still use parting flames weapon art...

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You can't use the weapon art without meeting the stat requirements which is a huge downside.

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This is just a shot in the dark, but you don’t think Pyromancer Dunnel’s “hideous” souse was Fluffybreed Priscilla? Because it was said that his Pyromancy Flame was used as an offering to his spouse. And where is this Parting Flame located? Where MustBreed Priscilla was in DS1. Not to mention they could mean “Hideous” as in more of a Heretical way due to Priscilla being associated with the Lifehunt Scythe and in turn “Occult Weapons” (AKA things that are primarily used against the gods), which in turn also made the Gods Fear her. Oh yeah and maybe the fact that she’s also a crossbreed between dragon and god is also probably something they feared too. Again, this is probably a stupid theory but just a little food for thought.

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Does using this pyromancy flame combo a black flame into another one?

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I believe that with the new patch, you are unable to use the Weapon Skill (Estus Restoration) if you don't meet the STR requirement.

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There is a penalty for using the Parting Flame without meeting the minimum STR-requirement. If the 'extra' flame of the glove hits an enemy, while he´s blocking with a shield, you will bounce off. Tested with Parting Flame & Black Flame on a Pontiff Knight.

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To activate its skill you have to kill at least 12 enemies to charge it then its effect will be visible on the player meaning its skill is ready

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Does the fire clutch ring increase the power of the trail?

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Parting Flame cannot store Estus Death Echoes if you have drank the Estus bottle already. So for it to actually store Estus you can't use Estus bottle.

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The picture looks like it's burning 4 seeds

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As a pyromancer, using this solely as a way to regain estus is bad unless you have a simple gem infused on your other hand to regenerate fp.

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I have an additional question regarding failed stat requirements: do you still build-up 'Death Echoes' while equipped if you failed to meet the stat requirements (STR/FTH/INT), I thought it might be interesting to have it equipped and then ring-swap in order to use the weapon art, but clearly that won't work if it doesn't build up Echoes. Any info? Might test this later myself.

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I cant upgrade this glove from +8 to +9 .. what should i do ??? I have the titanite chunks tho .

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Actually Parting Flame without meeting the 15 strength requirement only "bounces off" when hitting certain sturdy/tough mobs, usually the ones with obese looking like Winged Knights, Cathedral Knights and Old Demon Knights. Against mobs with standard physique such as Lothric Knights, Silver Knights and Oceiros, Parting Flame works just as good even if the caster does not meet the strength requirement --- --- dealing regular damage and using normal stamina.

When against a raised shield without meeting the 15 strength requirement, Parting Flame only "bounces off" when the "Flaming hand" directly contacts the raised shield during casting. In other words, even if the enemy raised its shield and the caster does not have 15 strength, as long as the caster avoids to have his/her Parting Flame get in touch with enemy's shield during casting, Parting Flame would work just fine as the enemy does not have its shield raised.

In PvP, under most cases, Parting Flame would work normally even if the caster does not reach the 15 strength requirement. Parting Flame would only bounce off when directly hits an enemy players's raised shield during casting, or hits an enemy player under the effects of certain weapon arts such as Perseverance or Stone Flesh.

Hence, if you simply want to use Parting Flame in PvP, it is not mandatory to raise your strength to 15 in order to use Parting Flame effectively in most cases; you just need to be familiar with circumstances that Parting Flame would "bounce off" and avoid to use Parting Flame before equipping Knight's Ring in those conditions.

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Keep in mind you'll need to meet the 15 Strength requirement if you plan to use this Pyromancy Flame against anyone up-close. The weapon " bounces off " characters/shields when the unique explosion starts, canceling your pyromancy-spell casting and doing little damage. This is very noticeable if attempting to use a Great Combustion/Black Flame on anyone using a shield, you'll fail to cast and have your flame bounce off, only inflicting the initial burst from the glove itself.

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In my game the spell buff on this flame started, and never went past 122 spell buff. Bug? or maybe a patch? thanks in advance.

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I've noticed that this actually gives me 2 estus flasks now. I don't know if this was a recent change or not.

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An absolute god send for those pyromancers out there looking for that much more survivability, the free Estus is absolutely amazing. This combined with warmth gives you a solid amount of longevity when helping someone else out. Also allows you to go more heavy with Ashen flask as long as you can be patient while waiting on warmth to top you guys off. Remember, not everything is a race. =)

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Does anyone know if the death echoes build up for other players killing creatures? Be it in the user's world or another player's?

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see if you can find the typo "tu"

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Why does the weapon art only accumulate when current equipped but if you trade out you lose all kill progress... if it's equipped in any slot and not in current use it should still count or keep kill count if traded out. Makes it useless if you want to use sheld as well. ..

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This has the same scaling soft caps as the regular pyromancy flame, right? 40int/40fth?

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This weapon is so weak that I have an un-upgraded pyromancy flame that deals similar damage, although the weapon art is very annoying on this weapon.

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Tell me the truth. Is the less damage worth this flames weapon skill?

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The creators really hate spell casters given the shafting towards pyromancy builds, thus why I have decided NOT to purchase the DLC.

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Boulder Heave also doesn't get the Fire Trails effect despite being an offensive Pyromancy. This might occur due to its casting animation being the same as Poison Mist, Toxic Mist and Acid Surge.

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I need a secondary one, if anyones willing to trade please add: psn/ caninthebox

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Just in case anyone cares about the spouse part of the description:
Japanese text reads in place of "spouse": "伴侶", which translates to "companion", "partner" or "assistant" thus being very unspecific about gender.

Japanese for spouse would have been "妻" [specifically "wife"], "夫" [specifically "husband"] or "配偶者" [either]

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When you cannot be able to use it you pray like a hollow

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in the new game deathborne you collect death echoes

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The skill weapon art has a very long animation and can't be cancelled by the user. Either use this with right hand or don't missclic as it gives enough time for your opponent go to the bathroom, going to the grocery store, making a coffee, and finally backstab you.

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Too bad it uses more stamina per spell than notmal pyromancer flame. Wasn't the reduced spell buff enough to balance the special effect?

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"Release Store of Blood Echos".....What is this Bloodborne?

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Does anyone know if the charger's kill counter, ticks up when a summon kills stuff, like Arstor's Spear, and Ring of Evil Eye still ticks along, when someone else kills the enemies, or if they somehow kill themselves?

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"Even if you have less than 15 strength, pyromancies casted through the flame will consume the same amount of stamina and will be dealing the same damage."

Statement is false, i tested it at +10 with the pyromancer class with base 12 strength. black flame did 475ish dmg and sacred flame did 575 damage, at 35 int/faith. Also equipped were the 2 pyromancy rings with fire clutch ring.
The target was the golden winged knights above the grand archives.

After grinding enough souls to up my strength to 15, I tested it again and this time black flame did 889 damage (with the bonus hit from the parting flame and 689-ish without the bonus hit) and sacred flame did 1029 damage. All other stats and equipment remained the same, only strength was increase from 12 to 15.

Please change that statement after confirming.

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Use this with great magic shield, toxic mist, and poison mist to become Shield Hitler

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keep the flame equipped and out, then kill 12 enemies to charge it. Switching the flame for a shield or weapon will reset the counter, but two-handing a weapon in the opposite hand will not reset the counter.

12 kills only is very strong considering this game likes to throw a lot of enemies at you and don't forget about the random estus you get sometimes for killing any enemy as well.

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It could be another item that's causing this but i highly doubt it. When i have it just equipped in my right (main) hand but not out (im using the scholar's candlestick instead) it seems like it still receives charges and uses them immediately, since ive noticed a yellow effect around me occasionally, similar to when you get souls from dying enemies and then my estus charge goes up by 1.

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From my PVP experience this flame wins out if you use sacred flame or black flame/combustion with it for trading.

That said if you don't meet the STR requirement the passive combustion effect appears to get deflected off of shields/blocks so only use it against shield users if you meet the STR requirements.

That said, at 30-40 stats the damage difference while there is pretty negligible for range spells and is very noticeable for the few "melee" spells, so if you do meet the STR requirement then only using this if you have even just black flame in your spell list may be well worth it to save you a swap/predictability.

Finally, staggers for pyromancies interact a little weird, so some stagger combos are not possible using this flame as it does a 'double' stagger with certain spells that work with the normal flame. But hey, you've got chaos fireball/vestiges at point blank -> black combustion stacking and that's all you really need.

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you can combo two black flames at very close range for 800+ damage with this flame

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on my pyro build with int/faith at 40 each the spell buff with this glove at +10 is 194. The buff on my regular pyro glove at +10 is 207.

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It's about a 30% boost, great combustion did 378 with normal and 495 with parting

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A friend and I were talking, and we theorized that the "hideous wife" could be Priscilla. Could someone do some lore hunting to confirm or deny this? Its located in a painted world, on a platform similar to where you fight Priscilla in DS1. And his wife disappeared, never to be found, so maybe she left his world for Ariamis? just a thought

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