Great Chaos Fire Orb | Dark Souls 3 Wiki

great chaos fire orb vs chaos bed vestige

great chaos fire orb, less expected ( pvp wise ), slow, slightly higher damage and leaves a short "trap" for enemies who walk on the impact point...which makes it very strong against targets who don't move much or have very large hitboxes ( Vordt, crystal sage and Lorian for example )

chaos bed vestige, expected ( pvp wise ) fast, large hitbox, harder to dodge... better against group of enemies, fast targets and players


great chaos fire orb is better suited for PvE while chaos bed vestige better suited for PvP

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This spell has a weird scaling quirk in which, depending on your pyromancy flame upgrade level, your faith scaling is not taken into account unless your intelligence is at least a certain value. I believe it's 20 INT at level 0, and scales to as low as 17(?) at +10. I think maybe this was done to gatekeep projectile spell damage behind intelligence to limit this spell invalidating other offensive spells with actual stat requirements. Important info for faith-focused pyro hybrids or min/maxing low level pyros who like this better than vestige.

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is this better than Chaos Bed Vestiges?

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Had trouble with Aldrich because of my main weapon being infused with dark and him being resistant to it. So I used this spell instead: reduce cast time, witch ring and fire clutch ring, and this spell trivializes the whole fight. Great spell.

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GRAN BOLA DE FUEGO DEL CAOS

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Dark hand counter, start deprived. Only level vigor. Same a low level twink would for high wall invasions with dark hand. Get ring to increase slots, get both Pyro increasing rings and fire clutch ring. By that far you will have lots of estus. Trigger dancer, bone out. Wait at highwall fire to be invaded.

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Damage is hella nice but damn for two spell slots this **** needs some tracking or something. Waaaaaay too easy to roll out of

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I really like this thing. It works on a full melee build, because it doesn’t require any stats to use. Without good int and faith, it might not be that great damage wise, but it’s good for pvp. If someone tries to run from your mega chad great hammer, just light them up with this, they won’t be expecting it

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My favorite pyromancy. Chaos Bed Vestiges does do a lot of damage, but this one to me is a lot more fun. As of right now, it takes at least two hits with CBV to kill an enemy, but with GCFO, the lava pools usually end the enemy after the initial damage, making me waste a lot less of my magic.
CBV still great though

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It’s kinda funny how I have a lvl 275 Havel, and I can use it really well

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Chaos bed vestiges, best direct damage. Great chaos fire orb: direct damage and crowd control. None is more useful than the other, just requires diferent playstyles. End of story.

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If you dont regularly start your pontif pvp sessions by destroying the 6 candlesticks surrounding that bonfire within only 6 chaos orb throws then you arent a real pvp pyromancer. You can hate me for saying this, but everybody knows if you cant hit consistent unlocked chaos orbs other than throwing directly at you feet then you are missing a crucial skill that makes pyromancy the undisputed champ of DS3 spellcasting.

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Probably the most overpowered pyromancy spell as of the LAST update. An absolute shredder for PVE in many cases, can make some bosses seem very small.

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This spell seems to rollcatch much more reliably than the other orb spells.

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Does the lingering ring extends the lava pool affect?

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Is there any significance to it being able to melt gra great boulders?

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What's the deal with the 0 faith/0 Int requirements?

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Love this Spell

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This, combined with the Witch's ring, the Chloranthy ring and a decent amount of FP (like 30 in Attunement) trivializes most bosses. I was able to beat the Dancer without taking any damage in like 10 - 15 minutes using this method; same with Aldrich. Because the cast time is so short, and because it casts in an arc with decent range, it makes it so that you can usually fire this off at least twice after any bosses power attacks, then they'll usually stand in the lava for a minute which gets even more damage on them.

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i actually hate this thing

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i can't believe y'all put my mixtape into an orb and put it into the izalith tome.

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I am using a white hair talisman at 7 int and 16 faith. I cannot use the talisman properly as is obvious and yet this skill does 143 dmg to the firekeeper amd 127 to the enemies in cemetry of ash xD my spell buff is 20. This spell is great for low level casting i put no investment at all although the dmg/fp is stupid weak but not bad for no investment at all.

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the choice pyromancy for pvp scrubs

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Focus cost is wrong. Its 32 not 25

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When i played my "magic knight" build (pure melee focused on Moonlight GS) i've ran into a problem: magic resistant enemies and most importantly - bosses, including: Sages, Deacons and Aldrich.
So, to compensate - i learned this spell. If its resistant to magic then i hope its not the same for fire.
Efficiency against Sages and Deacons is qustionable, but this thing DESTROYS Aldrich when he's not moving.

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Actually chaos storm also doesn't need stats so the statement at the end is incorrect

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if an enemy/boss is weak to fire you can pull of 700 damage with 15 int/fth

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With the only character I ever made, I was messing around and used my last respec to have all base stats, 14att and 60 fth/int plus I even sold all my spells to buy something. When I downloaded my save file to reset to the previous build it glitched out and I was stuck. I looked through the vendors and the only spell I hadn't bought was this one so I decided to go into NG+ with it. Guess what? I didn't respec back at the cathedral and went on to beat all bosses- almost all of them in my first try by lobbing this badass pyromancy at them that dealt 1.5k per 32 fp. Godly.

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Chaos best vestiges makes this spell for pvp obsolete. If your a pyro build and you using this instead, your doing it wrong. That's from 130+ hrs of pyro expierience speaking

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I want to give my boners to the "Great chaos fire orb"

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this spell destroys aldrich

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Anyone know how this stacks up against Chaos Bed Vestiges?

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It bothers me a little that you can use this spell for less stat investment than early game spells...

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How do you move slots 1 to slots 2? can anyone help?

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Does the dark sign's level affect the dmg?

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This page doesn't even give us infos on what weapon can we use this spell with. So unhelpful.

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pretty sure FP cost is higher now after an adjustment (~32)

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Wow, i really thought that pyro isn't THAT strong in DS3, but as soon as you get this spell, most of the game is a peace of cake! It's good for bosses, pvp and all groups. Good damage and bearable FP-cost. :O

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You can easly beat the game with this spell only

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Does the lingering dragoncrest ring effect the lava pool time?

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In one of the notes it states "Pool applies damage only once" which is false. Pool can apply damage more than once as long as the target was not hit by the initial fireball. so if they walk into the pool just as its made they can be hit twice.

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This carried me through most of mid-to-end-game against any enemy who wasn't resistant to fire. The lava damage on top of the initial impact generally makes it stronger than Chaos Bed Vestiges.In PvP, while any Fire Orb type spell is easy enough to dodge, the lava is where you can make things really tricky for your opponent. You can strategically place it so they'll run into it or alternatively have them focus too much effort watching the ground and follow up with a hit. If they decide to tank the lava damage, that normally puts them into kill range of Sacred Flame or a Critical Hit. Don't always just toss the orb straight at them, mix it up and throw it directly in front of your feet if you suspect they're going to dodge forward.In any 2vX situation, chucking GCFBs from a safe distance at the ensuing chaos can definitely secure some kills if you've got a good melee partner distracting. Just be warned if you're an invader, since you might kill your 'teammate'.

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Does this spell get stronger with int or faith or both?

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Im the only one who think its wierd this insanely strong skill has 0 stats requierment? all you need is a pyrofirst

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Nerfed after 1.04/1.06

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Improves greatly over chaos orb around +50% damage. Deals 670 with 40/14 i/f and flame +7 and all three rings. Pretty ridiculous 1 shots almost anything, and I've not started with faith scalling yet :3

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This spell literally melts enemies. Solo'd the Dancer at level 45 using Chaos Fire Orb.

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just got this spell and tried it on larva monsters around the chapel. interesting thing is that i normally had 790 souls from each larva monster(i have serpent ring and shield of want) but when i killed them with this spell, i was getting 950 souls per kill.

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He won't take this tomb from me, only the female witch does? Have a screwed up a quest somehow?

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where do i get this?

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considering so many monsters are REALLY weak to fire, this is brokenly good mid game.

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Does gcfo take up 1 or 2 attunement slots? I see both amounts listed.

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I'm assuming the 0 int / 0 faith requirements listed here are just a placeholder, or ..?

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It even leaves a lava spot where it hit that does more damage, equip both the different pyro buff rings!

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