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Chaos Bed Vestiges is a Pyromancy in Dark Souls 3. To cast a Pyromancy you must use a Flame or Special Weapons that can cast Pyromancies.

Chaos Bed Vestiges

Spell Type

Pyromancy

Focus ConsumptionFocus Cost 35
Attunement SlotsSlots Used 2
Requirements 20 Intelligence/ 10 Faith
Type Ranged Attack

 

 

Traces of the tumultuous seedbed that birthed the beings known as Demons.

Hurls chaos flame that scorches vicinity.

Demons born from fire bore its smoldering essence and perished soon after. Man shares this rapport with the flames to this day.

 

Acquired From

 

 

Notes

  • This pyromancy previously went under the name "Forbidden Sun" in Dark Souls II.
  • Has a better arc (more straight) but shorter range than the orb pyromancies. 
  • Has an AOE that damages enemies it flies near. However, this damage is fairly weak (210 vs 848 main damage) and ceases once it strikes something. Despite the look of the pyromancy, the main projectile itself has a fairly small hitbox.
  • Damage is decent for single target (848 vs 694 via chaos orb without the lava).
  • Quite effective in PvP for catching fleeing players, punishing Estus heals, and hitting multiple players at once.
Pyromancies
Acid Surge  ♦  Black Fire Orb  ♦  Black Flame  ♦  Black Serpent  ♦  Boulder Heave  ♦  Bursting Fireball  ♦  Carthus Beacon  ♦  Carthus Flame Arc  ♦  Chaos Storm  ♦  Fire Ball  ♦  Fire Orb  ♦  Fire Surge  ♦  Fire Whip  ♦  Fireball  ♦  Firestorm  ♦  Flame Fan  ♦  Floating Chaos  ♦  Great Chaos Fire Orb  ♦  Great Combustion  ♦  Iron Flesh  ♦  Poison Mist  ♦  Power Within  ♦  Profaned Flame  ♦  Profuse Sweat  ♦  Rapport  ♦  Sacred Flame  ♦  Seething Chaos  ♦  Toxic Mist  ♦  Warmth

 




    • Anonymous

      13 May 2018 20:04  

      There are people on here actually trying to compare great chaos fire orb to this... To argue that it could be better... -facepalm- Lets put two 40/40 pyros at each other, max casting speed from about 8 feet apart and have them cast at the same time to see which is better... Vestiges casts faster, travels WAY faster and hits more if you aren't counting the pool in... It isn't even a competition... You can interrupt a GCFO cast from close enough with vestiges... From far away you can hit them and roll out of their GCFO...

      • Anonymous

        06 May 2018 22:47  

        "it's one of the only decent pyromancies" lol, what? Pyromancies are ez af to win with, Black Flame is OP af, Black Orb is about as good as great chaos fire orb, Black serpent has great tracking, Fire Surge is S tier, boulder heave has a huge hitbox and good damage, Flame fan is a great pyromancy in general, profaned flame is good if free aimed, sacred flame hits like a truck, seething chaos is situationally useful and floating chaos is good for crowd control, warmth for healing. Power within has the highest damage increase, iron flesh is OP if combined with plenty of things, if we're talking pve then rapport literally breaks the game... These are examples of very common pyromancies besides great chaos fire orb/chaos bed vestiges used BECAUSE they're easily viable or downright OP. Boulder Heave and Profaned Flame are used less than the others, but you see Profaned Flame every once in a while and Boulder Heave very rarely when people are trolling with the huge hitbox.

        • Anonymous

          17 Apr 2018 16:21  

          Clearly needs balanced, there, i said it. Not worth arguing that it doesn't, if you can honestly do the mental gymnastics necessary to say that this is balanced you need a gold medal. "But... Stamina and fp cost!", doesn't matter. Not nearly enough to offset this spell's speed and damage. I'm not willing to argue that. Get on youtube for 2 seconds to see why. "Dodge!", redundant when it casts fast enough to interrupt pretty much anything. It just really doesn't make sense that this spell is just so superior in every way to literally every other spell AND wrecks melee'ers because this can cast quick enough to hit a straight sword user in an r1. Speed needs nerfed for sure, faster than any other top tier spell at max casting speed and pretty much any other as well. 2 hits EVERYONE, but i don't think it needs nerfed into the ground, so a speed and a LIGHT damage nerf would do it.

          • Anonymous

            21 Feb 2018 02:59  

            Seems to cast faster than GCFO, but does about 150 less damage at 40/40, closer to 300 less if you consider the lava lash damage source.

            I'd say it's AOE potential isn't a massive improvement over GCFO either. Pretty situational imo. Plus it doesn't look or feel as cool as GCFO.

            • Anonymous

              21 Jan 2018 15:48  

              I don't get the item text. Mainly "Demons born from fire bore its smoldering essence and perished soon after. Man shares this rapport with the flames to this day." I just can't make any sense of this.

              • Anonymous

                02 Sep 2017 16:18  

                I like the name 'Forbbiden Sun better.' 'Chaos Bed Vestiges' sounds like something the Witch of Izalith wore a a necklace.

                • Anonymous

                  28 Feb 2017 05:46  

                  torn between this and great chaos fire orb
                  I can't seem to make gcfo hit when I free aim so I think I'm just gonna use a carthus curved sword

                  • Anonymous

                    16 Feb 2017 20:30  

                    When I picked up this spell it is by far my favorite. It's better then chaos fire orb. Comes out quick melts oh man I had such a problem with the Lotodielies I spelled it wrong. But not any *****ing more 2 hits n bye bye this is a must have for an experienced Pryo build or some one looking to up there game plus it jus *****s bosses up

                    • Anonymous

                      27 Dec 2016 19:39  

                      Although this spell is fairly predictable, how I play this spell (which works really well for me) is to punish bad spacing and to punish great/ultra weapons and Oni&Ubi and general charge attack weapon arts. It absolutely wrecks for me. I like running at opponents to bait a swing and then missile this thing at the swing happy fools. Although its labeled as being to easy to dodge, you can make or find countless opportunities to land this where they have no options but to take a 600+ hit.

                      • Anonymous

                        05 Dec 2016 01:39  

                        After over 130+ hours of pyromancy play, this is by far the best pyro spell. It comes out so fast and does so much damage, it's hard to not break your game for the first few NG+'s. Word of warning though, if your a pyromancer and your still using chaos fire orb for pvp, your doing it wrong

                        • Anonymous

                          02 Nov 2016 16:59  

                          Could it be that this pyromancy is totally overpowered for PVE? I've used it against many Kinghts and Mini Bosses as well as against Aldrich, Dragonslayer Armor, Nameless King (excl. the King of the Storm), Friede (first two phases) and Champion's Gravetender and his cute wolfi. And with this, all of them were pretty easy to beat. Had 24 Int and 20 FTH in the end and not sure for which ones I was using the Witch's and the Great Swamp Ring, but for sure I haven't used both of them in all fights. Anyway, just against Friede in the third phase it wasn't that useful as she always closed the gap very quickly and kicked my ass with her endless combo. So I ended up using shield and sword against her.

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