New Game Plus is a feature of Dark Souls 3, wherein once the Final Boss is defeated, players have the option of replaying the game with their current stats and gear. After the credits, players are presented with an option to head straight into the next playthrough; if they opt not to, they can start the next playthrough later, from the Firelink Shrine bonfire. The consecutive playthroughs bring new challenges as enemies have increased health and damage, and there are new Souls and Rings hidden for players to find in order to continue developing their character.

 

DS3 Relative Difficulty By Playthough
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Changes with Game Plus

  • Enemies have more hit points, defenses, resistances, and damage. In NG+2 through 7 enemies also receive less poise damage.
  • Access to upgraded Rings: +1 for NG+ and +2/+3 for NG++. (base rings also still obtainable)
  • Soul  pickups are changed to higher level versions which give more souls when consumed or sold.
  • From NG+3, the only changes are enemy health, defense, resistance, damage, stamina damage, poise damage received, and the souls gained for killing enemies and NPC's. There are an unlimited number of NG+, but enemies stop getting stronger after NG+7.

 scaling  ng+ updated

  • NG+ is variable based on the location of the game the enemy is in and NG+2 through NG+7 multipliers use NG+ as a base.

What carries over to New Game Plus

What doesn't carry over to New Game Plus

  • All Key Items. This includes Dark Sigils, Tomes,  Sorcery Scrolls and Ashes (and their respective vendor ware unlocks). With the exception of Champion's Bones.
  • All Coals reset.
  • Unlocked shortcuts.
  • Discovered Bonfires.
  • All NPC states. (i.e. NPC quest progression resets, dead NPCs come back to life, NPC invaders will invade again, etc.)
  • Sky changes. (no more black sun and red clouds)
  • Pickle Pee, Pump-a-Rum trade state - all trades are reset except for the head carvings, of which you can only have one of each.

To-do Checklist before New Game Plus




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    • while area modifiers are correct and same for all new gamest ng+2 3 4 5 6 7 modifiers are wrong in table these numbers are scaling modifiers

      on ng1 scaling modifiers are all 1 and stats are scale relatve to 1
      for hp its 0.33 so on ng1 1/0.33 = 3 so enemies will have %300 more hp so if an enemy hp is 100 they will have 300 hp on ng1 but on top of that are scaling also applied so if that enemy is at farron keep it will have 600 hp

      base values are
      for hp 0.33-0.34
      for damage 0.55
      for defense 0.85
      for resistance 0.92-0.93
      there are also modifiers for fp stamina and poise but i am not tested them but they probably not work as the table shows them

      • Anonymous

        while area modifiers are correc and same for all new gamest ng+2 3 4 5 6 7 modifiers are wrong in table these numbers are scaling modifiers

        on ng1 scaling modifiers are all 1 and stats are scale relatve to 1
        for hp its 0.33 so on ng1 1/0.33 = 3 so enemies will have %300 more hp so if an enemy hp is 100 they will have 300 hp on ng1 but on top of that are scaling also applied so that enemy is at farron keep he will have 600 hp

        base values are
        for hp 0.33-0.34
        for damage 0.55
        for defense 0.85
        for resistance 0.92-0.93
        there are also modifiers for fp stamina and poise but i am not tested them
        how do i know well i tested all these values for 4 hours in game

        • Anonymous

          Ds 3 ng+ didn't feel harder to me, at lvl about 100 with top gear was actually a piece of cake as a str build with great sword +10, as a sorcerer caster or moonlight was even easier.
          In comparison Sekiro ng+ was a lot more difficult. Even the lowest soldiers than normally die in 1 hit would take 2 or 3 hits in ng+. In my first playthrough I did the shura ending and in ng+ when I got to fountain palace I really had a rough time. And I actually found Ds 3 much harder than Sekiro generally speaking. Sekiro was my first souls game, they usually say your first souls game is the hardest, but in my experience, when I started Ds 3 I felt so slow and vulnerable, I couldn't parry absolutely anything, i would run out of stamina, I died and died and died. Not complaining about anything, Ds 3 its now my favorite game of all time, climbing over sekiro, skyrim, outward, gothic, and all other great games I love.
          I finish ds 3 last night with my 3rd character and was wandering what souls game I should play next (can comment advise if you want, Ds 1 or Ds1 remastered? most people say Ds 2 suck for some reason) but im going on ng+ instead.

          • Things I missed on my first full ng:
            Literally half of umbral ashes.
            Every npc invader.
            Flame stoneplate ring.
            Every loot in grand archives.
            Rosaria (discovered her after halfway through dlc1)
            And I had played ds1 before this...

            • Anonymous

              I've started NG+ with a lvl 101 character and it has been pretty easy so far. I've killed deacons and abyss watchers currently and I died like 4-5 times so far due to some stupid mistakes but overall it has been much easier compared to new game.

              • Anonymous

                I hadn't had the money to buy the DLC until I was NG+6, and I'm Soul Level 180, Imagine how much Friede, Demon Prince, Midir, and Gael beat my ass

                • Anonymous

                  I bought the DLCs after fighting Nameless and now if i want to fight them i have to practice in ng+. Pray for me

                  • Anonymous

                    What the hell is relative difficulty? A lot of effort for a graph when the y axis doesn’t even make sense. Higher HP I can understand sure, but I refuse to believe the game will be 40% harder when a) you already know all the areas/bosses and b) you probably have access to the god-tier version of whatever weapons you like

                    • Anonymous

                      Defeated all main game bosses except for the nameless king, but dlc bosses are still alive. Should I start journey 2?

                      • Anonymous

                        all of the items in key inventory will go when u start ng+ everything else will move over, keeping all the key items would make the game too easy.

                        • Anonymous

                          Am i ready to start journey 2?

                          Level - 138

                          Vigor - 42
                          Endurance - 39
                          Vitality - 40

                          Anyone tell me if its good enough for journey 2

                          • Anonymous

                            Soul rewards for killing ennemies seams to be locked after NG++, the three golden winged knights on the archives roof gives around 85000 souls each at NG++ (using all farm items) they give the same exact amount at NG+3 etc....

                            • Anonymous

                              Do anyone know why there's no option of Begin New Journey in linkfire shrine bonfire. I always killed final boss.

                              • game just totaly freaked out on me, i was just about to do the lord of cinders fight, and suddenly the game made several repeating sounds (like your selecting things in your inventory) and im in the cemetary at the games start, on new game plus, didnt get to do ashes or ringed city, got jipped out of getting my loot from those dlc and the souls form them, and missed out on getting sunlight spear from lord of cinder soul!!

                                • Anonymous

                                  When I start an NG+ will I load up the items in the box? Or just the ones from the inventory? Or the equipped ones?

                                  Sorry if my English is bad.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    OK, help me out here. I think i just found a Bug in the game. I got thrown into NG+ without beating the final Boss...
                                    Here is what happend:
                                    -I defeated Deacons,
                                    .cleared out the top of the cathedral,
                                    -gave 2 pale tongue to rosaria,
                                    -baught the Armour for Siegwald from Patches
                                    -went back to Firelink shrine
                                    -switched my covenant Item from "Way of the Blue" to "Blue Sentinels"
                                    -warped to crucifiction woods
                                    and there the magic happend. I took 2 steps and a loading screen appears. next thing was the short cutscene where i rise from my coffin.
                                    I didnt know exactly what happend but when i defeated the crystal lizard and found a "intrepid Hero Soul" i knew i m in NG+.

                                    Is this a Bug or not?? please help me out here

                                    • Never saw the point in doing NG+ unless you’re completely in love with the game and don’t mind the repetition.
                                      I find that building the character is most of the fun and by the time I’m done with the game my build is pretty much complete. Only way I can see myself doing NG+ is if I bumrush (ignoring optional bosses) my way to Soul of Cinder and continuing my build to fight Gael in NG+

                                      • Anonymous

                                        Is DS3's increase of difficulty the lowest of all souls games? I remember in DS1, in NG+4 a maxed black knight glaive build would struggle against the 4 kings with power within, but i'm not having much of a bad time with bosses on DS3's NG+4... and i don't even have a meta PvE build

                                        • Some people are still unsure on if everything is just the same after ng+7. I just tested it in ng+8 and ng+9 with the first enemy you can encounter. And yes it is the same.

                                          Ng+8
                                          Damage: 465, and 728 were the ones for the most common attacks
                                          Souls: 153

                                          Ng+9
                                          Damage: 465, and 728, for the same attacks
                                          Souls: 153

                                          So yes everything after Ng+7 is the same, at least for normal enemies. You can test this yourself at the end of your game. Maybe bosses do get a bit more difficult but I highly doubt it.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            Man From really dropped the ball on Ng+ for Ds3. Ds1 introduced a nice basic concept of stronger difficulty with each ng+. Then Ds2 heavily expanded on it by adding more meaning to it such as new armors/spells/weapons that weren't available in the first new game. Heck you could even get ambushed by a boss out of their arena in Ds2 Ng+. Yet for some reason Ds3 just completely retconned that and went back to basic Ds1 ng+ style.

                                            Not saying Ds3 Ng+ sucks, but after Ds2 I know they could've done so much more than adding a couple of rings that would get outclassed by the DLC versions

                                            • Anonymous

                                              How difficult is NG+? i just finished my first playthrough yesterday and killed gael, i only need the other 3 endings and the "master of (arcane magic)"
                                              but would it be easier to use my SL 134 character or use a different character?

                                              • Anonymous

                                                Eh, could he an update over the years, but I'm on j20 and enemies are definitely still getting stronger.

                                                They are doing more damage than j8 (ng+7), have more poise, health/defence.
                                                Enemies such as Lothric knights in Lothric castle are getting closer and closer to 1 hitting me with blessed GS.

                                                Not much difference with DarkEater except health.

                                                Gael is definitely getting stronger.
                                                Moves that never 1 hit me before are getting way too close for comfort or out right trigger tears.

                                                And I'm not talking bout his super jump in phase 3. (Phase 2 after he starts overflowing).

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  New game+ is super boring and disappointing. After how amazing they did it in DS2 From decided to be uber lazy and literally not change anything from the base game. No new enemies, invasions, nothing. It's actually easier compared to new game, since the player now has perfect equipment. Such a let down, there is no reason to keep playing after finishing the game unless going for achievements or something.

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    Finally I've reached ng+, beaten sister friede, nameless king and soul of cinder, definitely the hardest trio. Forget bout the demon prince and gale.
                                                    Now, the hard part...........wich scythe do i use. Friede's twin scythe (really good looking) or the corvian scythe (fits closer to the theme im going for) dark sorceress. I got onyx blade for heavy backup (optional) pharris bow with a fukc ton of dark arrows (again optional) main weapons are the staff from dregg heap and the scythe im choosing. Armour/outfit Krystal sage hat and rest is karlas. All weapons are +10 and im lv 120, got all rings that are relevent. Its a shame i never knew about the npc that shows up after yoel dies, her clothing would be perfect for the corvian scythe.

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      A lot of bosses can 2 shot you and some can even one shot you at +7 no matter how high your SL and vigor are.

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        Can someone edit this page where it says to farm covenant items on NG + 2 for better item discovery. Item discovery does not change with increased NG+'s only your character item discovery with the help of items/luck will improve drop rates. Also don't forget to kill Yorshka for her chime after you are done with offerings or if you plan to grind them in NG+ (whether its from pvp or farming)

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          Im not getting any drop or souls from some enemies in ng+. Example the dark night near farron keep or the darkwraith under the lothric tower bonfire. Is this a glitch, or just part of ng+? Im also getting basically no souls from the pick ups. The large soul of an intrepid hero gives me only 2500 souls. I remember lesser drops in ng giving me up to 20k

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            NG+7 is the max damage scaling for mobs and bosses but furthermore the health is still going beeffier at each ng+

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              Why in the world is NG+ 8 so much harder than 7 i mean i know it gets harder but it gets way too hard i have smoughs armor and i have died from rats!

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                has new game plus always been new game plus or refered to as that as i dont remember it being called journey 1, 2 and 3 e.c.t?

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  So basically if you have grabbed everything during first play through, you don't need to grab anything except titanite slabs during ng+. then you come to ng++ to get your +2/+3 rings right?

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    So i got into to ng+ in one of my playthroughs, and i decided to do a new playthrough, but everything is way harder for some reason. Can someone explain?

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      I already gave 30 Pale Tongues to Rosaria in my first playthrough, result in not being able to do Sirris' questline. If I start NG+, will Sirris still act antagonistic toward me and I'm still unable to do her questline? In the Wiki above, It says that Convenant rank status are carried over, which mean my Rosaria's Fingers rank is at maxed and Sirris will still act antagonistic towards me?

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        If I achieved Rank 1 in a covenant on my 1st playthrough, and I want to go into NG+, do I lose my rank status in the covenant? Or can I keep submitting items like Dregs or Vertebrae's my second playthrough to get to rank 2? I don't want to start a NG+ and lose my rank status even though I have some of the items in the covenant's.

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          There are 2 key items that carry over into new games. The young grass dew, which is the firdt reward from the spears of the church covenant will carry over. The champion's bones will also carry over so if you forget to burn them in firelink its ok.

                                                                          • i just started playing but i can already see how fun it would be to have more players available to play at higher soul levels in all areas of the game. staying at soul level 120 seems frustrating

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              I am currently on NG+ 7 or 8 i can remember, the difficulty of the game didn't really change as i levelled significantly throughout my play through, currently lvl 300 still farming souls, if you are looking for a challenge don't lvl past meta. You will see and increase in difficulty and and in you ability to play the game, making starting new characters easier and doing challenge runs possible. People looking to level past 200 or 300+ there is a great soul farm in the grand archives. I would recommend stopping farming souls there when getting 5 levels takes long than a play through as you can get 5 free levels from Yoel as i have not currently reached this point i do not know when to stop farming souls and make an OP PVE boss build anyone who knows when farming souls is best to be stopped would appreciate a response. -E.R.J.P

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                Guys, if you really want a higher difficulty, i would advise to stay at meta level until NG+7. If you continue to level up, you wont experience an increase in difficulty. That's still kind of fun to have a build able to use every weapon… The challenge is real at NG+7 SL100. Same for Sekiro NG+7 at 14 attack power.

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  Does enemy poise rise with higher new game plus? I could stagger silver knights with EGS on NG3+ but can't on NG4+

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    So I’m on NG 4 and am debating to go further. My official difficulty spike was NG 3, and this run through (NG 4) didn’t feel to much harder or challenging, in fact, it felt easier. If I go forward is it still going to seem “Easier”? Or will there be another spike around NG 6-7?

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      There are a few upgraded rings in NG+ that you can't get in the regular game. Can you move a NG+ Ring back to regular New Game (By having a friend take it and give it to another character or something) or is there something that prevents this?

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        It took me 30 days to finish my first game. Didn't use wiki as is my rule first play thru. Ng+ took me 20 hours. And I was not rushing. Knowledge is key here peoples. May the flames guide u

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          It would be really cool if this page listed all the unique items that you get from the progressive playthroughs (NG+, NG+2 etc) so that you know what to look for on your new adventure.

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