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Demon in Pain & Demon from Below

Demon in Pain & Demon from Below
General Info
hp.jpg souls.jpg Location
7,062 X 2 100,000 Dreg Heap
Drops Soul of the Demon Prince
Defenses
Weak Resistant Immune
Bleed, DarkDark, SlashSlash, Black Knight Weapons FireFire FrostFrost/Poison & Toxic

Demon in Pain & Demon from Below Information


Demon in Pain & Demon from Below is a Boss in Dark Souls 3. It is part of The Ringed City DLC. This fight gives way to the Demon Prince.

  • You can summon Slave Knight Gael to help you fight this enemy. Summon can be found beside the Bonfire before the fight.
  • You can summon Lapp to help you fight this enemy. Summon can be found on the ledge before you drop down.
  • After defeating last demon, fire gathers inside it's corpse. Few seconds later there is an explosion with small AoE and new enemy appears - Demon Prince.
  • Player can tell the difference between Demon in Pain and Demon from Below by their face - first one has eyes covered with "sheet" of demonic skin, while in case of second one they are visible. Also - Demon in Pain is red, while Demon from Below is orange.
  • Not optional - must be defeated in order to reach The Ringed City.

 

Location

  • Demon in Pain & Demon from Below is found in drop right after Within the Earthen Peak Ruins Bonfire
  • While entering boss arena, Demon from Below will be on left in "flame" mode, while Demon in Pain on right in "burnt out" mode (if phantom enters boss fight area, he will turn to "flame" mode).

 

Drops

  • Souls: NG (100,000), NG+ (150,000), NG++ (220,000), NG+3 (??), NG+4 (??), NG+6 (??), NG+9 (??)
  • Soul of the Demon Prince
  • Co-Op Souls: NG (25 000).
  • Other: ??

 

Combat Information

  • Health: NG (7,062), NG+ (??), NG++ (??), NG+3 (??), NG+4 (??), NG+5 (??), NG+6 (??), NG+7 (??)
  • Up to 3 NPC/players can be summoned for this fight. However - due to high health pool it is recommended to bring no more than 1 phantom.
  • Summoned phantoms can't enter legde from which they fall to boss fight area, until both demons are not awaken.
  • If players are summoned, host should - if possible - lure demon near drop place, so falling phantoms could score a free hit.
  • Not parriable.
  • With enough hits - not necessary to the head - can be staggered, what gives an opportunity to perform critical strike dealing significant damage. 
  • Vulnerable to bleeding, assuming player can get hits in fast enough or - within short time - hit 2-3 times with Dorhys' Gnawing.
  • Most of the demons' attacks are slower than they look. Do not be afraid to wait for signs of an attack. Also, rolling after you get hit will most likely cause you to get hit AGAIN as their attacks are designed to be slow.
  • Weak to Black Knight Greatsword, Black Knight Sword, Black Knight Greataxe, Black Knight Glaive.
  • Demon in flaming mode deals fire and physical damage, while in burnt out mode toxic and physical.
  • Tranformation from "burnt out" mode to "flaming" mode can be delayed with a bit of luck, stagger and critical strike. 
  • Transformation from "flaming" mode to "burnt out" mode causes Demon to stop for a few seconds.
  • In contrast to Demon Prince, Demon from Pain and Demon from Below are weak to Dark damage and Slash.
  • Magic and Ligthning seems to be effective against them.
  • Both demons are highly resistant to Fire and immune to Frost and Poison/Toxic.
  • They both have same HP and take the same amount of damage, no difference when either in flaming mode or burnt out mode.
  • Recommended to bring items/spells that cure toxicity.
  • Demon Prince page

 

Strategies


Video Strategy

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Both demons have 2 similar modes that they can switch to and fro, each having unique movesets. 

Flaming mode: Easy to tell as the demon will be glowing. In this mode it will be aggressive and charge towards you, unleashing melee attacks. After one demon dies, the remaining one will automatically enter flaming mode, if burnt out prior.

Burnt out mode: After unleashing a fiery smash, a flaming demon will exhaust its flames and look burnt out. The demon will then attack you with toxic ranged attacks and claw you if you get too close.

The fight will start with 1 in flaming mode, the other in burnt out mode. The other will enter into flaming mode after 15-20 seconds after engaging, so be wary. It is recommended to focus on the flaming demon first as the range attacks from the burnt out one is easily dodgeable. Depending on the situation, both demons may either be Flaming or Burnt Out at the same time, which, the former being the most troublesome to deal with.

If you want to summon phantoms for this fight, it is best to summon only ONE at most, to take care of one of the two demons, and you taking care of the other. Fighting one of them is considerably easy and summoning numerous phantoms is only going to make the second phase even harder.

A basic strategy is to dodge under the flaming demon(s) as their frontal claw attack leaves them completely open, which is extremely easy to dodge.

Both demons can be staggered and are vulnerable to critical attacks, just don't do it unless you have any of these things: High AR, high crit weapon or Hornet Ring. You're better off getting in extra hits with your weapon or spells.

A viable strategy for Host of Embers summoning phantoms: Lure the demon(s) to the opening where you first drop. Your fellow phantoms have a chance to get a plunging attack off if positioned correctly, as they can drop down whenever they wish to.

Strategy 1 (Melee)

-Both demons are prone to stagger which opens up a critical attack chance (Visceral attack for bloodborners). It is easy to dodge attacks both from the flaming and burnt out demon if you are observant as they are very slow. Do NOT get greedy with your attacks, especially heavy weapon users. If hit by the toxic breath you will get staggered and get toxic buildup, leaving you open to attacks and possibility of getting stunlocked. Same goes when both demons are flaming, getting stunlocked is possible.

-Bring a weapon with bleed as the demons are weak to it.

Strategy 2 (Pyromancers)

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This fight is probably going to be tough for pure pyromancers. However, with minimum requirements, one can make use of weapons that scales with int/fth such as the Onyx Blade or the Moonlight Greatsword, or even weapons infused with Crystal, Blessed, Lightning, or Dark gems. For those who have considerable investment in faith may consider using offensive miracles as well. An alternative is to bring Dorhys' Gnawing along.

-Alternatively, use Dark Fire Orb which has a faster casting time than Dorhys' Gnawing and does more damage. Pyromancers may find it useful to equip Lloyd's Sword Ring and the Dark Clutch Ring in addition to the usual Witch and Great Swamp rings to maximize damage. Sage ring will probably be less useful at this level (even the +2 version) since most players at this level will probably have at least 20 DEX. Though the flaming demon will be the more aggressive, it is probably advisable to dispatch the first demon attacked, while keeping an eye on the movements of the other, in order to more quickly reduce the number of targets.

Strategy 3 (Sorcerer)

 

Bring Lapp. Summon him before the jump down in the arena, and he is a huge help, since he will most likely distract the bosses.
The first phase is not really hard, dodge the attacks of the demons, fire what you have. Phase two is really hard, since the boss is now highly resistant to magic.
Crystal Hail is very useful as it provides a bit more damage than Great Heavy Soul Arrow, but the casting time is shorter, which allows to cast it often.
Most of attacks of Demons can be simply avoided by jumping backwards, and then Crystal Hail can be cast once or twice, depending on your position.
The only exception is when one of the Demons start his long series of attacks with different hands, approaching you. If you are far away, escape backwards; if you are close, jumping to the right under his left hand during his third attack is usually safe.
Sometimes you may want to approach him a bit to end his combo: he will end the combo with a more slow strike with his left hand if you were close to him during his last attack with right hand.

Any type of Soulmass can be cast before jumping from the ledge to the arena.

Crystal Soul Spear can damage both Demons at once. However, the second stage enemy of this bossfight is resistant to magic and has high HP, so be careful not to end up with no mana.

Perstilent Mercury deals huge amount of damage to a passive demon if placed well: basically, you should cast this spell every time both demons become inactive for a short period.
When the fight starts, you can place Mercury right in front of you to the place where active Demon will jump, then cast Crystal Hail there (before he jumps), then cast Great Heavy Soul Arrow when he starts jumping to provide good damage at the very beginning of the fight.
It is not recommended to attempt placing Mercury under passive demon when the fight starts as it is quite risky and requires good sight on the active demon.

It is important to keep track on the boundaries of the arena so that you don't get stuck between a Demon and a wall.

Attacks

Demon in Pain & Demon from Below has 2 different attack modes, "burnt out" and "flame".

 
Frontal Leap (Flaming) The starting move that the first flaming demon whips out at the start of the boss right, will repeat if you are too far away. Easy to dodge.
Claw Swipe Combo (Flaming & Burnt out) The demon(s) will most likely use this move the most. Depending on your position, the demon may transition into a combo, possibly ending the combo with a overhead smash. Flaming mode has added damage with noticeable effects (Fire claw trails)
Claw Uppercut (Flaming & Burnt out) The demon(s) will drag its claw along the ground and do an upward attack.
Charging Frenzy (Flaming) The flaming demon(s) will charge forwards and claw infront of him repeatedly. NOTE: At the end of his combo he will do a smash with his left arm, transitioning to a backwards swipe, be wary when dodging his charge.
Downward smash (Flaming & Burnt out) Demon stands up and winds up for a downward smash.
Flaming smash (Flaming) A fiery variant of his normal downward smash, has larger AoE and damage. Upon executing this attack, the demon will enter burnt out mode, leaving itself vulnerable for a few seconds.
Toxic flames (Burnt out) The demon unleashes a trail of purple flames that will apply toxic buildup. Easily recognized by the purple particles that appear on the ground.
Toxic breath (Burnt out) At mid range the demon will breathe out toxic fumes that will apply rapid toxic buildup AND damage you.
Toxic Spit (Burnt out) Spit that applys toxic buildup and damages slightly.

 

Lore Theories

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Notes & Trivia

  • The cry of both demons closely resembles to that of the Cleric Beast (for some Darkbeast Paarl) from Bloodborne.
  • Do note that the page for Demon Prince is seperate, and the drops and souls can only be acquired by defeating the Demon Prince.
  • Boss fight arena is a devastated Firelink Shrine area from Dark Souls I.
  • At some moment of developing, Demon in Pain was called "Crimson Bat".
  • In earlier version, there were 3 stages of fight: In first one, player faced Crimson Bat (Demon in Pain), and after lowering his health by around 50 percent, Demon from Below appears. After defeating one of them Demon Prince appears.
  • Both demons share the tail of the Centipede Demon, a boss from Dark Souls. This also applies to the Demon Prince.

 

 




    • Anonymous

      22 Aug 2017 07:16  

      Any ultra-greatsword with the "vertical" moveset (Greatsword, FUGS, Cathedral Sword) will absolutely wreck this boss, because the second 2HR1 will hit the boss twice if you stand under it, greatly boosting DPS. Each hit will count toward stagger damage and you'll be able to get a critical hit very early in the fight.

      • Anonymous

        21 Aug 2017 06:20  

        Please, for the love of god, do not summon more than 1 phantom for this fight. This will easily double the length of the already long fight. I don't blame some people though, I wish FromSoft made it more obvious that more phantoms = more boss health.

        • Anonymous

          19 Aug 2017 18:09  

          İ have ng+ am 125levl i almost killhim ||that 2 sticks health left (very very low 2 hits and he dies)fhen 1 his laser attack took my alll health fck thats cancer fck my bealth is half ofa screen of 17inc pc jeezuz what am i supposed to doo plus that last gay flies away like fck ***** i hate that boss its fck no fun and cancer

          • Anonymous

            11 Aug 2017 10:01  

            NG+6 lvl 207 with gael
            was pretty easy even with fighting the "harder" demon prince
            also anyone else notice that the arena you fight it in is in DS1

            • Anonymous

              23 Jul 2017 02:44  

              Just beat this boss today for the first time, NG+, solo, lvl 74 strength/vit character using a heavy bastard sword, Alva set and Wolf Knight Greatshield.

              The transition caught me off guard, i didn't know the boss resurrected. The Demon Prince is pretty tough and very tanky, but the first phase turns out to be quite easy if you manage the space in the arena nicely and always keep track of where the Demons are.

              Friendly tip: always kill the Demon in Pain first, the one that starts burned out. It'll make the fight against the Demon Prince much easier than defeating the Demon From Below first. He will give you massive openings for attacking him with zero risks (fire laser attack)

              • Anonymous

                16 Jul 2017 04:33  

                Just beat them first attempt with my 256 build ng+9 went in with 13 estus 2 ashen came out with 2 estus and 0 ashen i used tears of denial and dorhys gnaw till my mana was out dorhys works great on second phaze three of them did 2000 dmg and thats a 40 in every stat but luck build i went in with gael and lapp with black knight greataxe+5 and it worked really well i hit the demons while lapp and gael distracted them lapp died when second phase had one hit but we still got him

                • Anonymous

                  01 Jul 2017 16:41  

                  *first encounter*
                  it doesn't really that HARD , defeat them with 3 estus left on first try , now lemme equip Symbol of Avarice before I gain the souls ...
                  *fused into Demon Prince*
                  OH HELL NO
                  *die in feeling from memory of DS1 O&S*

                  • Anonymous

                    22 Jun 2017 05:40  

                    I just experienced a glitch where both demons started using their second phase powers before I managed to kill even one of them. I was basically fighting both versions of the second phase boss at the same time.

                    • Anonymous

                      21 Jun 2017 18:46  

                      Whoever wrote the walkthrough above and said this fight is tough for pyros should redact that statement. It's one of the easier fights, on par with Dancer. Just spam dark fire spells. Definitely isn't difficult.

                      • Anonymous

                        10 Jun 2017 12:25  

                        They have 11625 HP with one summon, 16909 HP with two and 18317 with 3 on NG.
                        I think the prince has the same amount of HP, however, he has far higher def, so effectivly about twice the HP vs. physical DMG and 4x+ everything else.
                        Also the Black Knight Greatsword is probably the most effective weapon, as it has 3 hit potential with 2 R1s.

                        • Anonymous

                          30 May 2017 14:52  

                          Some strategies, in case some people need them:

                          General tips:
                          -use Black Knight weapons:
                          -they deal 20% more damage against this boss
                          - they deal high poise damage, allowing you to use critical attacks more often
                          -Use resins for more damage
                          -only summon 1 phantom. I would recommend Lapp, but its up to you
                          -bring Moss against the toxic. Otherwise, the fight might get very, very hard

                          For Phase 1:
                          -run into the demon that is in the "fire mode". Dogde his attacks by simply staying near his legs and just keep attacking them
                          -if possible, keep an eye on the toxic attacks of the "burnt out" demon
                          -if you use great weapons, use the critical attack when possible
                          -if you don't, just keep hitting when they are in a vurnuable state

                          Most important of all:
                          KILL DEMON FROM BELOW LAST!
                          Otherwise Phase 2 will get a lot more difficult!

                          For Phase 2:
                          Same strategy as against a "flame mode" demon.
                          -Stick to it's legs or his tail to avoid melee attacks.
                          -roll backwards or to the side against fireballs
                          -roll sideways if he uses his flying assault.

                          And in any case, just keep on attacking him, but always have enough stamina to roll once or twice.

                          • Anonymous

                            08 May 2017 04:54  

                            Love how all the successful attempts are do to "lightweight" lightning based attacks. Lol the sss is beast on these ******!

                            • 26 Apr 2017 17:22  

                              Is there any reason(s) why this and the demon prince have different pages as they're both part of the same boss fight? Just seems very impractical in my opinion.

                              • Anonymous

                                23 Apr 2017 11:12  

                                I just summoned both warriors and went in with max health flasks. It was a messy slashing fest brawl, but job was done on 4 attempts. Used a weapon with lighting. Light weight weapon that allowed me to slash like crazy between their legs. I had 6 flasks left by the end of the brawl. Hope this helps someone. :) I'm now stuck with 100 archers killing me. Goto love this game. Nothing else quite like it. Great combination of skill mixed with total panic. :)

                                • Anonymous

                                  22 Apr 2017 02:22  

                                  This boss is just unfair garbage! Hard to read delayed melee attacks that can't be dodged properly because the other demon spams poison all the time. No attack openings in case both are aggressive. And the high resistance against everything of the Demon Prince tops it all.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    20 Apr 2017 16:23  

                                    dont know what is wrong with you guys second try easy alone dont know why you need help....
                                    Stats:
                                    STR & DEX 40
                                    Refined Exile Greatsword easy

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