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Orbeck of Vinheim

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Orbeck of Vinheim is a NPC in Dark Souls 3.

 

Orbeck of Vinheim Information

 

Location

You can find Orbeck of Vinheim in Road of Sacrifices in the second floor of the near by ruins near the Crucifixion Woods bonfire. Go to the ruins that lead to the Crystal Sage boss, You will reach a room that has 4 doorways and an enemy with a spear and sheild. One leads to the boss, one leads to a cystal lizard, one leads to a room of enemies and the other leads to the second floor of the ruins and Orbeck.

He will relocate to Firelink Shrine after talking to him, but only if you have 10 Intelligence.

  • If you lack points in Intelligence you can use the Scholar Ring to boost it to 10. Once he's at Firelink he will no longer care about your intelligence level being too low.

 

Orbeck's Questline

Once Orbeck is at Firelink Shrine, if Yuria is also there she will ask you to "deal" with him and will reward you with the Morion Blade if you bring her his Ashes. Don't do this if you wish to continue giving him Scrolls to unlock new spells. Orbeck's ashes can be given to Yuria after he dies of natural causes, and she will still reward you with the weapon.

 

  1. Speak with him after buying three Sorceries, giving him one Scroll and being any Non-Sorcerer starting class he will thank you and give you the Young Dragon Ring.
  2. After purchasing Farron Flashsword, Pestilent MistAural Decoy and Spook he will ask you if you like gimmicks and will give you Slumbering Dragoncrest Ring, along with the Silent Ally gesture.
  3. He will disappear permanently from the game should you defeat Abyss Watchers (Orbeck will leave if you beat Abyss Watchers without giving him a scroll in unpatched game version) or any 4 bosses after recruiting him without giving him a single scroll for study. Only one scroll is required to prevent him from leaving. If he disappears from the game, you will not be able to get his ashes, and won't be able to complete Yuria of Londor's optional quest. Both the Golden Scroll and Sage Scroll can be acquired in Farron Keep.
  4. Once all spells are purchased from him, he will acknowledge you as a friend and well-trained sorcerer. He will then leave Firelink Shrine, and you will be able to summon him for the Lothric, Younger Prince boss fight, just outside the large gate leading to the boss fog. You will also need to have defeated the Curse-Rotted Greatwood  to see his summon sign.
  5. After defeating Lothric, Younger Prince, Orbecks's corpse will show up sitting at a table at the Grand Archives, on the upper floor where the four sorcery-using candlehead enemies are. From his corpse, his ashes can be looted.
    • If you do not purchase all his spells prior to this bossfight he will remain in the Firelink Shrine and will not die. However, in NG+ and beyond, if you talk to him after giving him all four scrolls and having learned all of his spells in a prior playthrough, his departure will be triggered. Note that learned scrolls may be sold, so if you want Orbeck to remain in the Shrine, you might want to sell a spell which is of little use to you (not tested if this will work, needs confirmation).
    • If you do not proceed directly to the next NG, his corpse can be found at said location even if you did not summon him for the boss fight.

 

Drops

  • Souls: NG (??), NG+ (??), NG++ (??), NG+3 (??), NG+6 (??), NG+9 (??)
  • Orbeck's Ashes

 

Items Sold

Item Quantity Souls Requirement (Scroll)
Soul Arrow 1 1000 Default
Heavy Soul Arrow 1 2000 Default 
Farron Dart 1 500 Default 
Soul Greatsword 1 5000 Default 
Magic Weapon 1 3000 Default 
Magic Shield 1 3000 Default 
Spook 1 2000 Default 
Aural Decoy 1 2000 Default 
Great Soul Arrow 1 3000 Default
Great Heavy Soul Arrow 1 4000 Default
Farron Flashsword 1 3000 Default
Great Farron Dart 1 2000 Sage's Scroll
Farron Hail 1 5000 Sage's Scroll
Pestilent Mercury 1 1000 After giving him any scroll
Cast Light 1 1000 Golden Scroll
Repair 1 2000 Golden Scroll
Hidden Weapon 1 1500 Golden Scroll
Hidden Body 1 3000 Golden Scroll
Twisted Wall of Light 1 6000 Golden Scroll
Homing Soulmass 1 6000 Logan's Scroll
Soul Spear 1 5000 Logan's Scroll
Homing Crystal Soulmass 1 18,000 Crystal Scroll
Crystal Soul Spear 1 15,000 Crystal Scroll
Crystal Magic Weapon 1 10,000 Crystal Scroll

Dialogue

First encounter

Well, this is unexpected. I don't often have visitors.
What do you want?
This is my study that you've happened upon.
If you haven't any business, I've reading to get back to."

(Nothing) "Yes, I see.
On your way, then.
This is my study, and I've plenty of reading to do."

(Talk) "Oh, enough of you, already.
Do you have business with me?"

(Ask to learn sorceries) "How intriguing.
Very well.
Indeed, I am a sorcerer. With plenty to share.
However...
What champion demands service without recompense?
Clearly you are not that sort of man/woman.
So, you will make me a promise.
That in exchange for my teaching, you will bring me knowledge.
In the form of scrolls detailing sorcery's secrets.
Well? Can you assure me of this?"

(Make no promise) "I can respect an honest man/woman.
But I've already put in more than my fair share of gratuitous service.
Be on your way, then.
Though you're welcome back if you change your mind."

(Talk) "Have you changed your mind?
If I am to teach you, you are to fetch me knowledge.
In the form of scrolls detailing the secrets of sorcery.
Can you make this promise?"

(Make a promise) "Very well.
You are no fool. I take it you understand the weight of a promise.
I am Orbeck of Vinheim.
Unkindled one, I shall teach you sorceries.
We will learn together, it shall be like our very own school."

[Ask to learn sorceries with insufficient intelligence]

You'd better not. Sorcery is not for everyone.
And should never be forced. You have your own methods.
Sorcery need not be one of them. Don't let it bother you.
Be on your way, then.
You're Unkindled. Shouldn't you get back to your duty?"

(Talk) "Oh, I thought you'd already given up.
Well, nothing has changed. You're not inclined for sorcery.
It is either a natural fit, or no fit at all.
Be on your way, then.
You're Unkindled. Souldn't you get back to your duty?"

(Talk after 10 int) "Well, well... There's something different bout you, isn't there?
Very well. (the rest is the same as if you had 10 int the first time you talked)

Upon arriving at Firelink Shrine

Oh, you're back, then.
Again, I'm Orbeck of Vinheim, here to teach you sorceries.Let us begin with the basics.
The ideal sorcerer bears the twin faces of the dragon...
...Oh you could at least act as if you are paying attention!"

Talk

I don't mean to seem overbearing, but have you forgotten?
In exchange for my sorceries, you are to bring me knowledge.
In the form of scrolls detailing the secrets of sorcery.
I hope you're not one to break a promise."

Greeting

Back again, I see.
Perfect timing, too. I'm in need of a diversion."

Leaving

Promise to stay safe."

When Crystal Sage has been defeated (not sure)

It is folly to claim lives recklessly, friend. Don not be tempted.
No matter the victim's stature, every killing has a consequence.
Even as I bloodied my hands, I never realised this simple truth.
Hmph. There I was, the very definition of a fool…"

When given Sage's scroll

Oh, my… This is stupendous.
Then the Undead Legion of Farron possesses sorceries quite unknown.
Thank you, for upholding your end of the bargain.
I doubt I ever would have made this discovery alone.
Now, let us unravel the thing, so you may put these new sorceries to use."

When given Golden scroll

Oh, my… This is stupendous.
It's from Oolacile, an ancient land of golden sorceries.
Not even the Dragon School possesses such a long-lost scroll.
What would the xanthous scholars say, with their ridiculous headwear.
They would simply slaver over this find."

When given Logan's scroll

Oh, my! You've made quite the discovery!
This is a scroll of the prodigious Big Hat Logan.
A masterful sorcerer, long missed in Vinheim.
And now, we have his scroll, right here in my very hands."

When given Crystal Scroll

Unfathomable.
This is a crystal sorcery, created by the pale dragon, thought only to exist in legend...
I am ever grateful to you. This is truly sublime.
I am afraid this is a debt I cannot repay, only...
I will be sure to unravel it for you. Just a moment."

Young Dragon Ring

Oh, I have something for you.
You're a fine sorcerer now, no mistake.
You should have something to prove it.
Go on. If I'm giving something away, you'd better well take it." (gift)

Silent Ally & Slumbering Dragoncrest Ring

How do you like gimmicks, friend?
This is a sign, a cipher employed by sorcerers who use quietude to their advantage. (gifts)
With this, you can be sure to tell friend from foe from your very first encounter.
It's a very old practice at this point...
...but one that you deserve to know."

Talk after ring and gesture

In Vinheim, I was an assassin.
A sorcerer only in name, a killer for hire.
What a fool I was, thinking one day I would learn real sorceries.
When I became Undead, I was exiled from the school.
But here I am, now, exploring the depths of sorcery.
All thanks to you, I might add.

After purchasing all scrolls

You are no ordinary man/woman (dependent on character's gender).
All of these sorceries, and you've mastered every one.
If this where the Dragon School, you'd be,...
..well, overtly despised, and banished from the place.
Well I suppose it's time I packed my bag.
I'd hate to see our agreement end sourly.
Better left tucked away as a pleasant memory."

Leaving after purchasing all scrolls

Promise to stay safe.
It's been nice running our own little school."

Upon attacking

What is this about?"

"Is that how it is?" (first encounter)

Upon aggroing

Seems it's too late. Then, there is only one thing left to do.
With regret, I will end this here and now!"

"Then we are thorugh and done.
Enjoy your long sleep!" (first encounter)

Upon killing you

Farewell. We had a nice little school going."

"Gods, this business never did agree with me..." (first encounter)

Upon death

But, why...
Is that all I'm worth?"

"Ive lost...my touch..." (first encounter)

 

Notes & Trivia

  • If you are unable to meet Orbeck's intelligence requirment to get him back to Firelink Shrine, you can play through the entire game and he will still remain in his study at the Road of Sacrifices. You can then use the Scholar Ring you find later in the game to artificially boost your intelligence and return him to the Shrine. Be sure to immedietly return and hand over any scrolls you have. It is unsure when he leaves after all bosses have already been defeated.
  • You don't have to summon him for the Twin Princes fight to get his ashes.
  • If his corpse doesn't appear at the Grand Archives, teleport back to Firelink Shrine and make sure that he left, then go back and his ashes should be there.
  • Orbeck confesses to being an assassin for Vinheim Dragon School. This lends credence to the theory that Griggs of Vineim from Dark Souls I is also an assassin as they wear the same black robes associated with sorceror assassins.

 

 

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    • Anonymous

      21 Sep 2017 22:18  

      Orbeck's appearance and general manner of speaking and conducting himself reminds me very much of L from the Death Note series. Considering the fact that him being a Sorcerer requires his Intelligence to be high, I think this might be intended (L was an extraordinarily intelligent person in the series).

      • 03 Aug 2017 09:24  

        He did NOT dissapear for me even tho i did all main bosses (up until triggering last boss that is, even killed bosses in AoA). I had NOT given him a single scroll, i went to the ruins and he was there, after talking to him he moved to firelink. After giving him all scrolls and buying all spells he moved.

        • Anonymous

          17 Jul 2017 23:36  

          I beat the entire game except gael. Every boss and opt. Went back there to give a friend a walkthrough and he was there. This was my game. I was talking the guy through not showing him. So he never disappeared even though i have killed everyone.

          • Anonymous

            10 Jul 2017 03:51  

            I made a new character and went straight for Orbeck of Vinheim, except when I got to the location where he should have been, only his ashes were there.
            I did transfer some items from my other character to the new one, but other than that it was just a standard run to his location. Any idea why his ashes were there, and not him?

            • Anonymous

              03 Jul 2017 09:27  

              To make him available for the princes boss fight I had to buy all sorceries again in NG+ though I completed his questline in the first playthrough.

              • Anonymous

                29 Jun 2017 00:41  

                He said something different to me upon killing me, i am in ng+ and wanted to test some of my weapons so i attacked him, after he killed me he said something like "Gods, what have i done?"

                • Anonymous

                  20 Jun 2017 12:45  

                  I somehow finished Grand Archives in one play through including the boss. Without returning the cinders, I gave the crystal scroll to Orbeck and went for second search in Grand Archives. When I returned, I found that Orbeck has been gone and then I successfully looted his corpse. So I wonder 'If you do not purchase all his spells prior to this bossfight he will remain in the Firelink Shrine and will not die.' may not be true.

                  • Anonymous

                    19 Jun 2017 19:02  

                    Do you just need to own the necessary sorceries for his questline to progress, or do you have to buy them again? (I started with spook and bought another sorcery from handmaiden)

                    • Anonymous

                      04 Jun 2017 20:36  

                      I got a new dialogue line. Using talk he says "Again I'm Orbeck of vinheim, here to teach you sorceries. Let us begin with the basics. The ideal sorcerer bears the twin faces of the dragon... oh you could at least act like you are paying attention." This was after giving him all scrolls but never buying a single spell in ng+. I hadn't heard it before and it doesn't seem to be on this page.

                      • Anonymous

                        28 May 2017 17:36  

                        I defeated great rotted wood tree in the beginning of the game and did not bring him to firelink until really late by using the scholar ring i bought all his spells and he said he will leave i cant find his summon sign only Sirris' ps i defeated most bosses except twin prince and the nameless king what did i do wrong?

                        • Anonymous

                          26 May 2017 01:50  

                          I hated killing him for the Morrion Blade... He also said something along the lines of, "I see...it was good while it lasted." Got me right in the feels. Iguess the silver lining is that I will allow his soul to be reborn once I become the Dark Lord.

                          • Anonymous

                            21 May 2017 15:33  

                            >He will disappear permanently from the game should you defeat Abyss Watchers or any 4 bosses after recruiting him without giving him a single scroll for study

                            I defeated Vordt, Greatwood, Crystal Sage, and Abyss Watchers before giving him a scroll and he didn't disappear.

                            • Anonymous

                              14 May 2017 12:42  

                              The "It is folly to claim lives recklessly, friend. Do not be tempted..." line may not be triggered by killing the crystal sage, but by talking to Yuria after he arrives to firelink. She basically tells you to kill him and he is going all "cash me ouside, how bow dat" (sure that will age well).

                              • Anonymous

                                03 May 2017 17:01  

                                finished questline...summuned him for twin *****s fight...we both died..and now i can.t summon him again :)

                                • Anonymous

                                  02 May 2017 01:55  

                                  I acquired him, then ran tthrough both DLCs. After I finished the DLC, he was gone. Didn't give him a scroll yet. >.<

                                  • Anonymous

                                    22 Apr 2017 05:17  

                                    I did not summon him, and beat the princes before buying all the spells. I gave him the last scroll, bought the remaining spells, then I beat the nameless king. Orbeck was then dead in the grand archives.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      17 Apr 2017 00:29  

                                      Is it possible to circumvent his disappearance by attacking him until he aggros, then not killing him, killing 4 or more bosses, then having one's sin forgiven to give him a scroll? I would assume he doesn't count bosses while he is hostile

                                      • Anonymous

                                        07 Apr 2017 08:04  

                                        TAKE NOTICE: Orbeck is still there after you defeat the Abyss Watchers, i just found him and i'm in the catacombs at the moment, so he doesn't disappear

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